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On Fri, 22 Aug 2025 14:55:40 -0700,  Alan says...  

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> On 2025-08-22 14:32, AlleyCat wrote:
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> > On Fri, 22 Aug 2025 00:55:48 -0400,  c186282 says...
> > 
> >> U.S. corn production is projected to hit a record 16.7 billion
> >> bushels
> > 
> > HOW can this BE?
> > 
> > Global Warming was supposed to shrink crop numbers.

> Cite, please!

Well... since you asked so nicely.

I'm citing:

The Internet

Sorry, Lakehouse rich boy. Fetch it yourself.

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Firearms-Related Homicides: Democratic vs. Republican Affiliation

THIS IS AN OLD ARTICLE, SO DEMOCRAT GUN CRIME IS MANY TIMES WORSE NOW.

TTAG reader RN writes:

Gun control is a huge American political issue right now (especially right after the mass shooting in Orlando, Florida). Democrats 
are all about infringing on Second Amendment rights because of school shootings, gun-related homicides, firearm deaths, and crime 
rates.

They claim that Republicans and NRA members are mainly responsible for "gun violence", (even when it's DEMOCRATS doing most of the 
shooting and killing) and are the reason why "common sense gun reform" laws need to be enacted to restrict firearm ownership.

Like everyone else on TTAG, I had my doubts about their gun deaths claims and decided to crunch some numbers to see which political 
party's members commit more firearms murders in the United States.

I began by finding the most recent number of firearms murders (strictly murders, this doesn't include suicides or justifiable 
homicides).

The .gov source I used: the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention WISQARS website. I chose the most recent year they had 
available (2014). According to the CDC, there were 10,945 murders involving firearms in 2014.

Next, I needed to find an accurate source for murder rates by race. This violent crime stat needs to be broken down by race because 
each race will have different murder rates and voting rates, which is important for getting an final product based on political 
affiliation. The source I used was the US Department of Justice's homicide report published in 2011. The information contained in 
this report was averaged from 1980 to 2008. Here are the murder rates that can be found on the third page of the report:

52.5% were black perpetrators

45.3% were white perpetrators

2.2% were perpetrators of other races

Lastly, I needed to find the political affiliation for these races. The source I used was Cornell University. I chose to use 
information from the last presidential election (2012). Here are the voting rates for the Democrats broken down by race:

93% of blacks voted Democrat

39% of whites voted Democrat

67% of everyone else (average of all races other than black/white) voted Democrat

With numbers in hand, I began my calculations. First up was calculating the number of firearms murders by race. There are a few 
assumptions in this calculation. For on thing, it assumes that the murder rate from the 1980 to 2008 time period is somewhat 
correct for 2014 (the year I'm using for firearm murders). It also assumes that there is a 1:1 victim to perpetrator ratio (we all 
know that this isn't always true, i.e. mass murders by one perpetrator, but this is the easiest way to compute this information). 
Here are my calculations for 2014 firearm murders by race:

5,746.12 firearms murders by blacks (10,945 x.525)

4,958.09 firearm murders by whites (10,945 x.453)

240.79 firearm murders by others (10,945 x.022)

After this was complete, I needed to bring in another variable: political affiliation.

This calculation would give me the total number of firearms murders for Democrats (this political party is a continuation from the 
calculations above) in 2014 broken down by race. Again, there are a few assumptions here:

the 2012 political party affiliation is correct for 2014 (the year I'm using for firearm murders)
there is a 1:1 political party affiliation to each perpetrator ratio (we also know this isn't completely correct because it assumes 
that every perpetrator belongs to one of these 2 political parties). We have to make this assumption because there is no other data 
to go off of for this portion of the analysis and I believe that any error caused by it would only be +/- a few percentage points 
(hardly enough to have any substantial influence over the outcome).

Here are my calculations for 2014 firearm murders by race and Democrat affiliation (using this party again to remain consistent):

5,343.89 firearm murders by black Democrats (5,746.12 x.93)

1,933.66 firearm murders by white Democrats (4,958.09 x.39)

161.33 firearm murders by other Democrats (240.79 x.67)

Time to add these up to find the total number of firearm murders that were perpetrated by Democrats in 2014:

7,438.88 total firearm murders by Democrats (5,343.89 + 1,933.66 + 161.33)

Lastly, I found the percentage of firearm murders that were perpetrated by Democrats in 2014:

67.97% gun murders by democrats (7,438.88/10,945)

According to my calculations, about 68% of all gun homicides in 2014 were committed by Democrats. Only 32% of all firearm homicides 
in 2014 were committed by Republicans. This means that Democrats committed twice the number of firearm related murders than 
Republicans (68/32 = 2.125). This leads to three very important conclusions regarding gun policy:

Republicans aren't to blame for the number of firearm murders, as the Democrats try to claim

If Democrats stopped shooting people, we could reduce our firearm related murders by almost 70%

Guns aren't the problem, Democrats are.