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On Fri, 22 Aug 2025 06:55:37 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 21 Aug 2025 09:16:46 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>On 2025-08-21 03:53, NoBody wrote:
>>> On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 09:41:51 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 2025-08-20 03:54, NoBody wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 19 Aug 2025 13:12:39 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2025-08-19 03:57, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>> On Mon, 18 Aug 2025 09:22:19 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2025-08-18 03:56, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 17 Aug 2025 13:05:26 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-08-17 07:25, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 16 Aug 2025 08:23:27 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-08-16 07:32, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 15 Aug 2025 10:14:55 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-08-15 10:00, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WASHINGTON (AP) — Mexico sent 26 high-ranking cartel figures to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> United States Tuesday in the latest major deal with the Trump
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> administration as American authorities ratchet up pressure on criminal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> networks smuggling drugs across the border.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Those handed over to U.S. custody include Abigael González Valencia, a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> leader of “Los Cuinis,” a group closely aligned with notorious cartel
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jalisco New Generation or CJNG. Another defendant, Roberto Salazar, is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wanted in connection to the 2008 killing of a Los Angeles County
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sheriff’s deputy. Other prominent figures have ties to the Sinaloa
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cartel and other violent drug trafficking groups.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://apnews.com/article/cartels-trump-administration-bondi-justice-department-712bdb8f99522ee72ec357492cfa393b
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And you libs pay no mind to helping reduce unwanted deaths and family
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> destruction from drugs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> They're certainly pulling out all the stops so you'll "pay no mind" to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the Epstein files.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you address to the topic please?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> This was political theatre.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll ask you a question:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you think this will change the flow of drugs into the US?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes or no.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes I do and the previous efforts have paid off:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> "Both the number of migrants detected by United States authorities
>>>>>>>>>>> after illegally crossing the Mexico-U.S. border and the quantity of
>>>>>>>>>>> fentanyl seized at the border have significantly decreased this year.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Neither of which is in any way impacted by who is running the cartels,
>>>>>>>>>> and you cannot figure out how much illegal drugs are getting INTO the
>>>>>>>>>> country by how much is seized at the borders.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Laughter!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How much is siezed is a direct indicator of how much gets in.  And
>>>>>>>>> somehow in your head, removing drug cartel heads doesn't effect drug
>>>>>>>>> cartel heads....
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If the cartels come up with a perfect way of smuggling drugs into the
>>>>>>>> country, seizures would drop to zero... ...right?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Laughter!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Assumes facts not in evidence.  You'd best get to work showing us how
>>>>>>> they're getting more drugs are getting past the authorities.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No. It assumes the logical extension of your claim that lower seizures
>>>>>> automatically correlate to lower amounts making it through.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You put out a hypothetical that doesn't exist.
>>>>>
>>>>> Duh.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you have a problem with the method of measure, make sure you call
>>>>> the AP to correct them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Laughter!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> AP didn't say a word about seizures and how they relate to how much
>>>> contraband got into the country, doofus. When it comes to seizures,
>>>> you're thinking about the link you provided (now snipped; imagine that!)
>>>>from Mexico News Daily.
>>>>
>>>> https://mexiconewsdaily.com/news/fact-check-border-crossings-and-drug-seizures-plummet-statistics-dont-align/
>>> 
>>> You are correct and I erred in attributing that to the AP.  Oddly, now
>>> your theory is that I deliberately snipped an article that supports my
>>> position?
>>> 
>>> Laughter!
>>
>>You snipped it because it presented two contradictory statements about 
>>what represents success in seizures.
>>
>
>Laughter?
>
>I was the one who provided both side citations.
>
>How exactly are they contradictory?
>
>>> 
>>>>
>>>> And the fact that they draw erroneous conclusions by assuming a
>>>> correlation without proof really isn't my problem.
>>> 
>>> If you have an issue with their conclusion go talk to them.  Be sure
>>> to let us know what they say about your opinion.
>>
>>They drew no such conclusion.
>
>Laughter!
>
>You just said they did.
>
>You're going to need to put some coherent thoughts together.
>
>>
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>
>>>> But let's put back the situation you snipped:
>>>>
>>>> If less seized drugs prove less drugs are making it into the country...
>>> 
>>> The word you're looking for is "fewer".
>>
>>Play grammar games!
>>
>
>Hey, if you want to sound like an uneducated dolt, that's your call.
>
>
>>> 
>>>>
>>>> ...then doesn't more seized ammunition and weapons parts prove more
>>>> ammunition and weapons are making it into the country?
>>> 
>>> It may or may not but since we're discussing drugs in this thread, I
>>> don't care.
>>I can see why you want to run away to grammar games.
>
>Laughter!
>
>You're such a lightweight...


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