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From: Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: All Is Fair In Love and Politics, Toddler
Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2025 08:27:16 -0400
Organization: None

Alan wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

> On 2025-08-24 16:32, chine.bleu wrote:
>> Alan wrote:
>>> We do know that Trump took documents with him when he left the White 
>>> House.
>>>
>>> That is not conjecture: that is FACT.
>> 
>> Irrelevant unless you can prove beyond reasonable doubt.
>
> Not irrelevant.
>
> Facts remain facts, and the simple lack of a successful conviction 
> doesn't change a fact into a falsehood.
>
>> We can prove beyond reasonable doubt he defied a subpoena which is 
>> obstruction of justice.
>> 
>> Due to the Bill of Rights, we cannot do anything because a person might 
>> have committed a crime. We have to prove through due process a crime was 
>> committed. Just because TACO is denying others due process, taking that 
>> away from him is hypoccrisy.
>>
> Due process was NOT taken away from him.

Actually, due process WAS taken away from Trump, by suborned judge
Aileen Cannon. She took it away to BENEFIT Trump.

    <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aileen_Cannon>

    On December 1, the Eleventh Circuit ordered the case to be
    dismissed because Cannon "improperly exercised equitable
    jurisdiction" over it. The Eleventh Circuit stated that Trump
    needed to show that the case met all four criteria under the
    Richey test for equitable jurisdiction over lawsuits for
    seized materials but failed to do so for any criteria. The
    Eleventh Circuit found that under Cannon "the district court
    stepped in with its own reasoning" multiple times to argue in
    favor of Trump, sometimes even taking positions that Trump did
    not argue before the appeals court. The Eleventh Circuit also
    found that when Trump did not explain what materials he still
    needed to return, or why, the "district court was undeterred
    by this lack of information".

    The National Law Journal wrote that the Eleventh Circuit's
    decision "reads as a rebuke of" Cannon, with New York
    University law professor Peter M. Shane commenting that "[i]f
    an appellate court tells a lower court that we can only accept
    your judgment by betraying one of the nation's founding
    principles, that's a pretty strong rebuke." Duke University
    School of Law professor Samuel W. Buell opined on the case
    affecting Cannon's judicial legacy, stating that it "might end
    up being the most high-profile case she has in her career, so
    it's not going away", but the Eleventh Circuit's "opinion has
    her having been very wrong".

    On December 8, the Eleventh Circuit ended the special master's
    review and permitted the government to use non-classified
    seized material in its investigation. On December 12, Cannon
    had Trump's case "dismissed for lack of jurisdiction", after
    the Eleventh Circuit instructed her to dismiss.

    Cannon was the subject of ethics complaints over her handling
    of this case, but the complaints were dismissed in December
    2022 by the Eleventh Circuit's chief judge, William Pryor.

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