From: NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: NBC News Reports That Unless We Stop Burning Ancient Carbon, We Will Face Catastrophic Global Warming Within The Next Ten Years
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2025 07:02:08 -0400
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 07:04:01 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 15:07:04 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>On 2025-08-24 06:57, NoBody wrote:
>>> On Sat, 23 Aug 2025 08:30:40 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2025-08-23 06:35, NoBody wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 22 Aug 2025 14:26:22 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2025-08-20 20:04, AlleyCat wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> NBC News reports that unless we stop burning ancient carbon, we will face catastrophic global warming within the next ten years.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "A federal report today predicted possible catastrophic warming of the Earth by the 1990s with a strong climate change."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wait a second, this was broadcast back in 1983.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1958266242344607744/vid/avc1/886x644/Y5IpZuvaSy6IVBND.mp4
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We all died in 1993 and we just don't know it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Right, Bruce?
>>>>>> Apparently you don't understand the meaning of the word "possible".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nothing in there reported on what would happen with certainty.
>>>>>
>>>>> But we should run around like headless chickens and ban natural gas
>>>>> with no certainty right?
>>>>
>>>> That's not what I said.
>>>>
>>>
>>> That's been the proposed alternatives.
>>
>>Ignoring the grammatical error, so what?
>>
>>I'm not proposing it.
>>
>>But the reality is that the levelized cost of electrical generation is
>>already making renewables competitive with natural gas and less
>>expensive that coal.
>>
>><https://www.lazard.com/media/eijnqja3/lazards-lcoeplus-june-2025.pdf>
>>
>>Page 8.
>
>You're changing the topic why?
>
>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But since 1983, the amount of Arctic sea ice at the yearly minimum has
>>>>>> gone from 7.25 million square kilometres to 4.25 million square
>>>>>> kilometres in the last cycle that has a minimum at the moment (2024).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And 2025 is tracking to be just about as low.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://nsidc.org/sea-ice-today/sea-ice-tools/charctic-interactive-sea-ice-graph>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Antarctic sea ice shows the same pattern.
>>>>>
>>>>> Now show us the evidence we caused it (with certainty).
>>>>> Has the global climate ever changed before?
>>>>
>>>> Look at the charts, dumbass.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Correlation is not causation
>>>
>>> Your charts are not evidents of causation.
>
>Silence.
>
>>>
>>>> Look at the charts on temperature and the rate at which it is climbing.
>>>
>>> Has the climate ever changed before?
>
>Silence.
>
>>>
>>> That question REQUIRES an answer for your position to be taken
>>> seriously.
>>I realize this is a cartoon presentation, but the facts behind it are solid:
>>
>><https://xkcd.com/1732/>
>
>All you have to do is answer my question. You're doing everything
>possible to NOT answer it.
>
>>
>>His comment in the tooltip is on point:
>>
>>"[After setting your car on fire] Listen, your car's temperature has
>>changed before."
>>
>>So, I'll ask you a question.
>>
>>When has the climate last changed THIS fast, before?
>
>Now you're changing the question in an effort to avoid answering it.
>
>Let's start with you answering the question put to you before we
>proceed.
And Alan runs away.