From: NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump
Subject: Re: NY appeals court slaps Judge Engoron hard
Date: Sat, 30 Aug 2025 09:34:04 -0400
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 07:07:30 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>On Wed, 27 Aug 2025 10:08:33 -0400, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>On 2025-08-27 07:20, NoBody wrote:
>>> On Tue, 26 Aug 2025 14:48:08 -0400, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2025-08-26 07:29, NoBody wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 05:28:53 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2025-08-25 04:29, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>> On Sun, 24 Aug 2025 09:18:36 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2025-08-24 07:23, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 23 Aug 2025 11:34:06 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-08-23 11:18, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> "In New York, a court revealed that a leading citizen had cooked the
>>>>>>>>>>> books by inflating questionable figures without any support in
>>>>>>>>>>> reality. Moreover, his wild overvaluation was widely viewed as
>>>>>>>>>>> motivated by his self-aggrandizement. The final reported figures are
>>>>>>>>>>> so absurdly inflated that they were rejected in their entirety. In the
>>>>>>>>>>> end, he was off by over half a billion dollars.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> That man is Judge Arthur Engoron.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> After a New York appellate court unanimously threw out Engoron's
>>>>>>>>>>> absurd half-a-billion-dollar judgment and interest against President
>>>>>>>>>>> Donald Trump, the irony was crushing. It was Engoron who seemed, as he
>>>>>>>>>>> characterized Trump witnesses, as having "simply denied reality." It
>>>>>>>>>>> made his notorious reliance on an assessment of Mar-a-Lago as worth
>>>>>>>>>>> between $18 million and $27.6 million seem like good accounting.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In the end, he could not get a single judge to preserve a single
>>>>>>>>>>> dollar of that fine.
>>>>>>>>>> Did they overturn the verdict?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Didn't expect that they would because it's New York. That will get
>>>>>>>>> addressed in future appeals.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Your running away from the post is noted.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It was a New York appellate court that threw out the award, doofus.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Which is in......New York.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <eyeroll>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which YOU said was the reason the verdict wasn't overturned...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...so why the contradiction?
>>>>>
>>>>> No contradiction at all. The award was SO outrageous that even a
>>>>> liberal New York appeals court couldn't not toss it. The verdict
>>>>> itself falls within their level of "acceptable" corruption. Look for
>>>>> that to be overturned in another court at some point.
>>>>
>>>> Riiiiiiiiight.
>>>>
>>>> How about, Trump did the things with which he was charged, which was
>>>> proven beyond a reasonable doubt?
>>>
>>> Tell us who the victim was. Oh, and it was a civil trial not a
>>> criminal trial where the standard is much lower. If you can't get the
>>> basics correct, how am I supposed to take anything you write
>>> seriously?
>>
>>The banks who lent him money at rates that they might not have if they'd
>>known the true value of his assets.
>
>The banks made money and did not and have not complained.
>
>What's you're next guess?
>
>>
>>And before you go on and on about how they weren't injured in the end,
>>let me ask you:
>>
>>If I take your car while you're asleep, use it for my purposes, and
>>return it with a full tank of gas...
>>
>>...is that alright with you?
>
>Your comparison is bizarre and invalid. To correct it, if you did
>that and the state asked me if I wanted to complain and said no, then
>it must have been ok with you. Of course you wouldn't have filled it
>up and blamed me because the gas is low...
>
>
>>
>>And I was using "charged" in the generic sense. I know it was a civil
>>trial, doofus.
And Alan is silent