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From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism
Subject: Re: Illinois governer rebuffs federal intervention to prevent Chicago
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2025 19:53:58 -0700
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider

On 2025-09-02 07:47, NoBody wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Sep 2025 16:10:50 -0400, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2025-09-01 15:03, pothead wrote:
>>> On 2025-09-01, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2025-09-01 10:05, NoBody wrote:
>>>>> Shouldn't the governor take a hint and enforce laws in Chicago?
>>>>>
>>>>> At least 53 people have been shot, seven fatally, across Chicago over
>>>>> Labor Day weekend, including a drive-by attack that left seven victims
>>>>> wounded, according to police.
>>>>>
>>>>> The violent holiday weekend came as President Donald Trump renewed
>>>>> threats to send federal agents and National Guard troops to Chicago
>>>>> over the objections of Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker and Chicago Mayor
>>>>> Brandon Johnson.
>>>>>
>>>>> Trump on Saturday sent a warning to Pritzker in a post on his social
>>>>> media platform, referencing recent crime in Chicago and saying
>>>>> Pritzker "better straighten it out, FAST, or we're coming!"
>>>>>
>>>>> Pritzker, a Democrat, responded in a news conference a week ago to an
>>>>> earlier Trump threat to "straighten out Chicago, just like we did
>>>>> D.C.," by saying that the president's plan was "unprecedented and
>>>>> unwarranted. It is illegal, it is unconstitutional, it is
>>>>> un-American."
>>>>>
>>>>> https://abcnews.go.com/US/35-shot-weekend-chicago-governor-rejects-trumps-threat/story?id=125134744
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah cause crime and murder is better....
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So why isn't Trump sending troops any of the 91 other cities in the US
>>>> that have higher rates of violent crime?
>>>>
>>>> Or the 21 cities that have higher rates of murder and non-negligent
>>>> manslaughter?
>>>>
>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate>
>>>>
>>>> If this is really about making people safer, shouldn't you be sending
>>>> people to where they will do the most good?
>>>
>>> The governor and mayor of Chicago were both all over the airwaves singing
>>> from the same hymnal, page 99, "Threat To Democracy" song.
>>> They are both disgusting.
>>
>> The federal government under Donald Trump IS a threat to democracy.
>>
> 
> Laughter!
> 
> As opposed to the previous administration that did everything they
> could to prosecute Trump for absolutely nothing.
> 
>>>
>>> They have a serious problem in Chicago.
>>> Funding illegal migrants when students in the school system can't read or write.
>>
>> Cite, please!
> 
> 
> Really?
> 
> "One-fifth of Illinois adults are functionally illiterate, according
> to the National Center for Education Statistics. That means they
> cannot understand the meaning of sentences, locate information on
> pages or complete simple forms, all of which would affect their
> abilities to hold many jobs.
> 
> In Cook County, 25% of adults are functionally illiterate."
> 
> https://www.illinoispolicy.org/1-in-5-illinois-adults-is-illiterate-but-its-1-in-4-in-cook-county/
> 
> " Chicago Public Schools third- through eighth-grade state test scores
> increased in 2024, with reading finally surpassing 2019 levels. But
> for Chicago’s 11th grade students, both reading and math remained
> below pre-pandemic levels.
> 
> State test scores are in for Chicago Public Schools, and fewer than
> 1-in-3 students could read and fewer than 1-in-5 do math at their
> elementary grade level in 2024.
> 
> It was worse for the district’s 11th graders: fewer than 1 in 4 could
> read and math scores dropped nearly a percentage point from 2023.
> 
> The Illinois Report Card released Oct. 30 showed 30.5% of CPS students
> in third through eighth grade read at grade level in 2024 compared to
> 25.9% the previous school year. Math proficiency increased to 18.3% in
> 2024 from 17.5% in 2023.
> 
> Among Chicago’s 11th graders, only 22.4% could read at grade level in
> 2024 and 18.6% performed math proficiently, up just one-tenth of a
> percentage point in reading since the previous school year and down
> nearly one percentage point in math. Both reading and math proficiency
> for Chicago 11th graders remained below 2019 levels."
> 
> https://www.illinoispolicy.org/fewer-than-1-in-3-chicago-public-schools-students-read-at-grade-level/
> 
> And no it's not good news as the authors try to portray.

Hmmmmm...

...not seeing the same evidence for your claim about "Funding illegal 
migrants"

Why is that?



> 
> 
>>
>>> Crime running rampant and not just this weekend, but EVERY WEEKEND.
>>
>> And yet less crime than many, many other US cities.
> 
> So?

So if resources are limited, why wouldn't you use them most effectively?

> 
>>
>>>
>>> And as usual the left is squawking "what about xxx city and yyy city which have higher
>>> crime rates" and so forth.
>>
>> Yes. Because that's valid.
> 
> No it isn't.

Why not?

> 
>>
>> If Trump is actually trying to address the problem of crime (he's not),
>> then why isn't he starting where crime is worst?
> 
> If you're going after a huge problem, why wouldn't you start with the
> most notorious areas?

"Notorious" implies where people THINK the problems are.

You should start with the areas where the problems are ACTUALLY worst.

> 
> 
>>
>>>
>>> Tell that to the families of the people who lost their lives in Chicago over this and
>>> seemingly every weekend.
>>
>> Tell it to the families where it's happening more often that aren't
>> getting this "support".
> 
> Somehow in your mind that is an answer.
> It's not.

This action is literally telling people in other jurisdictions with 
worse problems that the US government doesn't care.

> 
>>
>>>
>>> Again, it puzzles me why the left isn't concerned about protecting the citizens within
>>> their own communities?
>>> It makes no sense at all.
>>>
>>> This is why the democrat party is cratering.
>> It puzzles me why you can't see the danger here.
> 
> Here's an easy solution:  Tell the damn governor to do something so
> that these steps wouldn't be necessary.

These steps aren't about actually solving the problem, and deep down, 
you know that.