From: NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism
Subject: Re: Illinois governer rebuffs federal intervention to prevent Chicago murders - does nothing instead
Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2025 10:25:06 -0400
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On Wed, 3 Sep 2025 19:12:07 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>On 2025-09-03 18:58, pothead wrote:
>> On 2025-09-04, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>> On 2025-09-03 17:54, pothead wrote:
>>>> On 2025-09-03, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 2025-09-03 07:49, pothead wrote:
>>>>>> On 2025-09-03, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 2 Sep 2025 14:51:16 -0000 (UTC), pothead
>>>>>>> <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-02, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 1 Sep 2025 10:53:14 -0400, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-01 10:05, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Shouldn't the governor take a hint and enforce laws in Chicago?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> At least 53 people have been shot, seven fatally, across Chicago over
>>>>>>>>>>> Labor Day weekend, including a drive-by attack that left seven victims
>>>>>>>>>>> wounded, according to police.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The violent holiday weekend came as President Donald Trump renewed
>>>>>>>>>>> threats to send federal agents and National Guard troops to Chicago
>>>>>>>>>>> over the objections of Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker and Chicago Mayor
>>>>>>>>>>> Brandon Johnson.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Trump on Saturday sent a warning to Pritzker in a post on his social
>>>>>>>>>>> media platform, referencing recent crime in Chicago and saying
>>>>>>>>>>> Pritzker "better straighten it out, FAST, or we're coming!"
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Pritzker, a Democrat, responded in a news conference a week ago to an
>>>>>>>>>>> earlier Trump threat to "straighten out Chicago, just like we did
>>>>>>>>>>> D.C.," by saying that the president's plan was "unprecedented and
>>>>>>>>>>> unwarranted. It is illegal, it is unconstitutional, it is
>>>>>>>>>>> un-American."
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://abcnews.go.com/US/35-shot-weekend-chicago-governor-rejects-trumps-threat/story?id=125134744
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah cause crime and murder is better....
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So why isn't Trump sending troops any of the 91 other cities in the US
>>>>>>>>>> that have higher rates of violent crime?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Or the 21 cities that have higher rates of murder and non-negligent
>>>>>>>>>> manslaughter?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If this is really about making people safer, shouldn't you be sending
>>>>>>>>>> people to where they will do the most good?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It's certainly something I wouldn't object to. Now please explain why
>>>>>>>>> you have no problem with Chicago's massive murder problem, the
>>>>>>>>> governor doing nothing about it and actively rebelling against an
>>>>>>>>> offer of help.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Bingo.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Did you notice Alan has vanished?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yep.
>>>>>> Like I've said before, Trump has snookered the liberals once again.
>>>>>> They simply cannot explain to the voters why they aren't interested in
>>>>>> solving the crime problem.
>>>>>> It's no win situation for the democrats.
>>>>> My question is:
>>>>>
>>>>> Why isn't Trump interested in solving the crime problem where it's worst?
>>>>
>>>> Is that the best you progressives can come up with?
>>>> At least Trump is doing SOMETHING to try and fix the problem.
>>>
>>> But why won't you question his motives?
>>
>> Because other than what he says about reducing crime and rebuilding DC, tunnels, roads etc,
>> what else am I supposed to believe?
>> I see nothing else other than TDS infected whiners complaining about everything he does.
>
>You don't see that he's not acting where the problem is worst?
>
>You really don't see that?
You are being completely non-responsive to very logical points being
put before you.
Why?
>
>>
>>
>>> You agree he's not actually trying to solve the problem where it is
>>> worts, right?
>>
>> He is solving the problem and that is what counts.
>
>Is that what he's doing?
Ask the people in DC where the crime rate has plummetted since Trump
acted.
Is that you *want* people to suffer?
>
>> If he started in other cities you would find something to complain about as well
>> instead of admitting your democrat leaders have policies that do not enforce crime control.
>> They have failed and still they refuse helpt from Trump simply because he is Trump.
>> You ignore that part.
>
>Republican cities have higher crime rates, so did they fail, too?
Perhaps they have and need action. Please cite Republican led cities
that have highter murder rate than Chicago.
>
>>
>>
>>
>>>>
>>>> What have the democrats done other than create the problems and complain
>>>> when Trump offers to help.
>>>>
>>>> Why not try and focus on what good your party is doing for the legal American citizens?
>>>> I realize that's a tough one, but at least try.
>>> Why not try to examine Trump's motivations?
>>
>> Because I care about what benefits the legal citizens of these cities and appreciate
>> those like Trump who are trying to help them rid their cities of crime.
>>
>> Unlike the left who prefer to support criminals and ignore the victims.
>Straw man.
Not at all. You show how weak your side's argument really is.