From: NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism
Subject: Re: Illinois governer rebuffs federal intervention to prevent Chicago murders - does nothing instead
Date: Thu, 04 Sep 2025 10:29:39 -0400
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On Wed, 3 Sep 2025 19:53:58 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>On 2025-09-02 07:47, NoBody wrote:
>> On Mon, 1 Sep 2025 16:10:50 -0400, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2025-09-01 15:03, pothead wrote:
>>>> On 2025-09-01, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 2025-09-01 10:05, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>> Shouldn't the governor take a hint and enforce laws in Chicago?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At least 53 people have been shot, seven fatally, across Chicago over
>>>>>> Labor Day weekend, including a drive-by attack that left seven victims
>>>>>> wounded, according to police.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The violent holiday weekend came as President Donald Trump renewed
>>>>>> threats to send federal agents and National Guard troops to Chicago
>>>>>> over the objections of Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker and Chicago Mayor
>>>>>> Brandon Johnson.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Trump on Saturday sent a warning to Pritzker in a post on his social
>>>>>> media platform, referencing recent crime in Chicago and saying
>>>>>> Pritzker "better straighten it out, FAST, or we're coming!"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pritzker, a Democrat, responded in a news conference a week ago to an
>>>>>> earlier Trump threat to "straighten out Chicago, just like we did
>>>>>> D.C.," by saying that the president's plan was "unprecedented and
>>>>>> unwarranted. It is illegal, it is unconstitutional, it is
>>>>>> un-American."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://abcnews.go.com/US/35-shot-weekend-chicago-governor-rejects-trumps-threat/story?id=125134744
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yeah cause crime and murder is better....
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So why isn't Trump sending troops any of the 91 other cities in the US
>>>>> that have higher rates of violent crime?
>>>>>
>>>>> Or the 21 cities that have higher rates of murder and non-negligent
>>>>> manslaughter?
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate>
>>>>>
>>>>> If this is really about making people safer, shouldn't you be sending
>>>>> people to where they will do the most good?
>>>>
>>>> The governor and mayor of Chicago were both all over the airwaves singing
>>>> from the same hymnal, page 99, "Threat To Democracy" song.
>>>> They are both disgusting.
>>>
>>> The federal government under Donald Trump IS a threat to democracy.
>>>
>>
>> Laughter!
>>
>> As opposed to the previous administration that did everything they
>> could to prosecute Trump for absolutely nothing.
>>
>>>>
>>>> They have a serious problem in Chicago.
>>>> Funding illegal migrants when students in the school system can't read or write.
>>>
>>> Cite, please!
>>
>>
>> Really?
>>
>> "One-fifth of Illinois adults are functionally illiterate, according
>> to the National Center for Education Statistics. That means they
>> cannot understand the meaning of sentences, locate information on
>> pages or complete simple forms, all of which would affect their
>> abilities to hold many jobs.
>>
>> In Cook County, 25% of adults are functionally illiterate."
>>
>> https://www.illinoispolicy.org/1-in-5-illinois-adults-is-illiterate-but-its-1-in-4-in-cook-county/
>>
>> " Chicago Public Schools third- through eighth-grade state test scores
>> increased in 2024, with reading finally surpassing 2019 levels. But
>> for Chicagos 11th grade students, both reading and math remained
>> below pre-pandemic levels.
>>
>> State test scores are in for Chicago Public Schools, and fewer than
>> 1-in-3 students could read and fewer than 1-in-5 do math at their
>> elementary grade level in 2024.
>>
>> It was worse for the districts 11th graders: fewer than 1 in 4 could
>> read and math scores dropped nearly a percentage point from 2023.
>>
>> The Illinois Report Card released Oct. 30 showed 30.5% of CPS students
>> in third through eighth grade read at grade level in 2024 compared to
>> 25.9% the previous school year. Math proficiency increased to 18.3% in
>> 2024 from 17.5% in 2023.
>>
>> Among Chicagos 11th graders, only 22.4% could read at grade level in
>> 2024 and 18.6% performed math proficiently, up just one-tenth of a
>> percentage point in reading since the previous school year and down
>> nearly one percentage point in math. Both reading and math proficiency
>> for Chicago 11th graders remained below 2019 levels."
>>
>> https://www.illinoispolicy.org/fewer-than-1-in-3-chicago-public-schools-students-read-at-grade-level/
>>
>> And no it's not good news as the authors try to portray.
>
>Hmmmmm...
>
>...not seeing the same evidence for your claim about "Funding illegal
>migrants"
>
>Why is that?
It wasn't my claim dimbulb. Please keep your facts straight. I
merely supplied the data that shows Chicago has a massive illiteracy
problem. Of course you refuse to address that.
>
>
>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>> Crime running rampant and not just this weekend, but EVERY WEEKEND.
>>>
>>> And yet less crime than many, many other US cities.
>>
>> So?
>
>So if resources are limited, why wouldn't you use them most effectively?
Lack of a coherent response noted. Please rewrite.