From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism
Subject: Re: Illinois governer rebuffs federal intervention to prevent Chicago
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2025 10:31:25 -0700
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On 2025-09-04 07:25, NoBody wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Sep 2025 19:12:07 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2025-09-03 18:58, pothead wrote:
>>> On 2025-09-04, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2025-09-03 17:54, pothead wrote:
>>>>> On 2025-09-03, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2025-09-03 07:49, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2025-09-03, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 2 Sep 2025 14:51:16 -0000 (UTC), pothead
>>>>>>>> <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-02, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 1 Sep 2025 10:53:14 -0400, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-01 10:05, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Shouldn't the governor take a hint and enforce laws in Chicago?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> At least 53 people have been shot, seven fatally, across Chicago over
>>>>>>>>>>>> Labor Day weekend, including a drive-by attack that left seven victims
>>>>>>>>>>>> wounded, according to police.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The violent holiday weekend came as President Donald Trump renewed
>>>>>>>>>>>> threats to send federal agents and National Guard troops to Chicago
>>>>>>>>>>>> over the objections of Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker and Chicago Mayor
>>>>>>>>>>>> Brandon Johnson.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Trump on Saturday sent a warning to Pritzker in a post on his social
>>>>>>>>>>>> media platform, referencing recent crime in Chicago and saying
>>>>>>>>>>>> Pritzker "better straighten it out, FAST, or we're coming!"
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Pritzker, a Democrat, responded in a news conference a week ago to an
>>>>>>>>>>>> earlier Trump threat to "straighten out Chicago, just like we did
>>>>>>>>>>>> D.C.," by saying that the president's plan was "unprecedented and
>>>>>>>>>>>> unwarranted. It is illegal, it is unconstitutional, it is
>>>>>>>>>>>> un-American."
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://abcnews.go.com/US/35-shot-weekend-chicago-governor-rejects-trumps-threat/story?id=125134744
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah cause crime and murder is better....
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So why isn't Trump sending troops any of the 91 other cities in the US
>>>>>>>>>>> that have higher rates of violent crime?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Or the 21 cities that have higher rates of murder and non-negligent
>>>>>>>>>>> manslaughter?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If this is really about making people safer, shouldn't you be sending
>>>>>>>>>>> people to where they will do the most good?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It's certainly something I wouldn't object to. Now please explain why
>>>>>>>>>> you have no problem with Chicago's massive murder problem, the
>>>>>>>>>> governor doing nothing about it and actively rebelling against an
>>>>>>>>>> offer of help.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bingo.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Did you notice Alan has vanished?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yep.
>>>>>>> Like I've said before, Trump has snookered the liberals once again.
>>>>>>> They simply cannot explain to the voters why they aren't interested in
>>>>>>> solving the crime problem.
>>>>>>> It's no win situation for the democrats.
>>>>>> My question is:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why isn't Trump interested in solving the crime problem where it's worst?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is that the best you progressives can come up with?
>>>>> At least Trump is doing SOMETHING to try and fix the problem.
>>>>
>>>> But why won't you question his motives?
>>>
>>> Because other than what he says about reducing crime and rebuilding DC, tunnels, roads etc,
>>> what else am I supposed to believe?
>>> I see nothing else other than TDS infected whiners complaining about everything he does.
>>
>> You don't see that he's not acting where the problem is worst?
>>
>> You really don't see that?
>
> You are being completely non-responsive to very logical points being
> put before you.
>
> Why?
I'm being completely responsive.
>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> You agree he's not actually trying to solve the problem where it is
>>>> worts, right?
>>>
>>> He is solving the problem and that is what counts.
>>
>> Is that what he's doing?
>
> Ask the people in DC where the crime rate has plummetted since Trump
> acted.
How do you know that; because Trump claims it?
Laughter!
>
> Is that you *want* people to suffer?
Straw man.
You apparently want Trump to act in a way that won't reduce suffering as
much as possible.
Why is that?