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From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism
Subject: Re: Illinois governer rebuffs federal intervention to prevent Chicago
Date: Thu, 4 Sep 2025 10:33:29 -0700
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider

On 2025-09-04 07:14, NoBody wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Sep 2025 18:20:03 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2025-09-03 17:54, pothead wrote:
>>> On 2025-09-03, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2025-09-03 07:49, pothead wrote:
>>>>> On 2025-09-03, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 2 Sep 2025 14:51:16 -0000 (UTC), pothead
>>>>>> <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2025-09-02, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Mon, 1 Sep 2025 10:53:14 -0400, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-01 10:05, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Shouldn't the governor take a hint and enforce laws in Chicago?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> At least 53 people have been shot, seven fatally, across Chicago over
>>>>>>>>>> Labor Day weekend, including a drive-by attack that left seven victims
>>>>>>>>>> wounded, according to police.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The violent holiday weekend came as President Donald Trump renewed
>>>>>>>>>> threats to send federal agents and National Guard troops to Chicago
>>>>>>>>>> over the objections of Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker and Chicago Mayor
>>>>>>>>>> Brandon Johnson.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Trump on Saturday sent a warning to Pritzker in a post on his social
>>>>>>>>>> media platform, referencing recent crime in Chicago and saying
>>>>>>>>>> Pritzker "better straighten it out, FAST, or we're coming!"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Pritzker, a Democrat, responded in a news conference a week ago to an
>>>>>>>>>> earlier Trump threat to "straighten out Chicago, just like we did
>>>>>>>>>> D.C.," by saying that the president's plan was "unprecedented and
>>>>>>>>>> unwarranted. It is illegal, it is unconstitutional, it is
>>>>>>>>>> un-American."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://abcnews.go.com/US/35-shot-weekend-chicago-governor-rejects-trumps-threat/story?id=125134744
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yeah cause crime and murder is better....
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So why isn't Trump sending troops any of the 91 other cities in the US
>>>>>>>>> that have higher rates of violent crime?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Or the 21 cities that have higher rates of murder and non-negligent
>>>>>>>>> manslaughter?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If this is really about making people safer, shouldn't you be sending
>>>>>>>>> people to where they will do the most good?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's certainly something I wouldn't object to.  Now please explain why
>>>>>>>> you have no problem with Chicago's massive murder problem, the
>>>>>>>> governor doing nothing about it and actively rebelling against an
>>>>>>>> offer of help.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Bingo.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Did you notice Alan has vanished?
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep.
>>>>> Like I've said before, Trump has snookered the liberals once again.
>>>>> They simply cannot explain to the voters why they aren't interested in
>>>>> solving the crime problem.
>>>>> It's no win situation for the democrats.
>>>> My question is:
>>>>
>>>> Why isn't Trump interested in solving the crime problem where it's worst?
>>>
>>> Is that the best you progressives can come up with?
>>> At least Trump is doing SOMETHING to try and fix the problem.
>>
>> But why won't you question his motives?
>>
>> You agree he's not actually trying to solve the problem where it is
>> worts, right?
> 
> Ok let's play.  What Republican led city has more murders and gang
> activity than Chicago?
> 
> Make sure you can site your claim.

Define "Republican led".

> 
>>
>>>
>>> What have the democrats done other than create the problems and complain
>>> when Trump offers to help.
>>>
>>> Why not try and focus on what good your party is doing for the legal American citizens?
>>> I realize that's a tough one, but at least try.
>> Why not try to examine Trump's motivations?
> 
> It's not really relevant to the topic at this time.

It really, really is.

Just like examining his motivation for (for instance) sending a 
formation of 8 fighter jets over DC just while the Epstein victims were 
holding their protest.

Motivations matter.