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On Thu, 4 Sep 2025 01:01:15 -0000 (UTC), pothead wrote:
>On 2025-09-03, Governor Swill wrote:
>> On Wed, 3 Sep 2025 pothead wrote: 
>>>Maybe the left should begin listening to the people because
>>>it's undeniable that the democrat party is cratering and doubling down
>>>on the same failed policies is only going to make things worse for them. 
>> Making Trump the least popular President since ... Trump is working
>> wonders for Democrats. 

He got the Democrats in charge of Congress in 2018 and in charge of
the Oval in 2020 didn't he?

>>>Heck, even MSNBC Morning Joe show, ultra left wing, is recommending that 
>>>Illinois governor Prtizker work with Trump to save Chicago. 
>>><https://www.msnbc.com/top-stories/latest/trump-pritzker-partnership-fight-crime-chicago-gun-violence-rcna228586> 
>> Joe was a Republican all his life until, in 2017 (the year Trump was
>> sworn in) he became an Independent.  Why would it surprise you that he
>> would share some values with Republicans?
>
>Because typically Joe is a TDS suffering Trump hater 24x7.

So that means he automatically has nothing in common with the GOP
anymore?

You know who else doesn't like the GOP anymore?
"Six months into Donald Trump's return to the White House Marjorie
Taylor Greene has about had it with the Republican Party. 

"The conservative firebrand who surged onto the political scene in
2021 and has been an ever-present figure in the House GOP and MAGA
orbit ever since told the Daily Mail in a 45-minute call this week
that it may be time for her to walk away. "
<https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14960689/marjorie-taylor-greene-floats-breakup-republican-party.html>

>That entire show is devoted to hating Trump.

And Fox and Friends is devoted to worshipping him and crying into
their coffee because the orangutan hasn't been given a Nobel Peace
Prize yet.

Your point?

>Remember Joe was also the person who stated that Joe Biden was the best
>Biden he has ever seen and at the top of his game.
>ROTFLMAO!
>BTW they also have Michael Steele on MSNBC and he was the RNC chair at one time.
>He's another TDS suffering Trump hater.
>For either of them to back anything Trump must be tearing their insides out.

TDS is your lame excuse for ignoring the facts.  The only people
deranged about Trump are his sycophants.  He's an incompetent, lying
cheat who only cares about himself and cannot stand the idea of
anybody else being the center of attention.  

Everything he touches turns to shit.  Whatever his stated intentions,
the opposite always seems to happen.  That's why he doesn't build
buildings or cut real estate deals anymore.  They always bomb.
Instead, he licenses out his name and leaves other, more competent
people to do the actual work.  Even his highly touted, super luxurious
Scottish golf resorts are barely hanging on by their fingernails.

>>>People are tired of liberals ruining things and you can spin every number you
>>>wish but it's voter's perception and personal experience that counts.
>>
>> And voters in blue states perceive and experience less violent crime
>> than voters in red states.
>
>Try cities.
><https://realestate.usnews.com/places/rankings/most-dangerous-places>

I tore this cite to pieces in another post.  There are 17 red state
cities and eight blue/purple ones.  And four of them aren't even
cities; they're small towns that added together are smaller than
Gilbert, AZ.

Crime is always higher in cities.  Crime goes up with population
density.  Unless you're in a red state.  If you're in a red state
crime is high no matter where you go.

Put another way, crime is higher in blue cities in red states than it
is in blue cities in blue states.  Why is that?

>> For what it's worth, I too think that federal troops should 'help out'
>> in a few high crime cities.  If this experiment is found to work then
>> the more permanent solution of more cops on the streets and the tax
>> increases to pay for them can be applied.
>
>For me, I do not like the optics at all as it does look somewhat authoritarian

Yes it does but as an experiment, could be helpful in developing
solutions.

>however people are getting killed due to lack of policing crime so
>it is what it is.

Your perception of crime is just that.  A perception.

>Bottom line is being soft on crime will never work.

We have the highest incarceration rates in the G7; the affluent
industrial west.  We also have the highest crime rates in that group
so clearly being TOUGH on crime doesn't work either.
-- 
It's easier to fool a man than convince him he's been fooled.
 -- attributed to Mark Twain

8647!