From: NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism
Subject: Re: Illinois governer rebuffs federal intervention to prevent Chicago murders - does nothing instead
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2025 08:46:12 -0400
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On Thu, 4 Sep 2025 09:01:10 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>On 2025-09-04 07:07, NoBody wrote:
>> On Wed, 3 Sep 2025 14:46:51 -0000 (UTC), pothead
>> <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2025-09-03, Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 1 Sep 2025 19:03:47 -0000 (UTC), pothead
>>>> <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2025-09-01, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2025-09-01 10:05, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>> Shouldn't the governor take a hint and enforce laws in Chicago?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At least 53 people have been shot, seven fatally, across Chicago over
>>>>>>> Labor Day weekend, including a drive-by attack that left seven victims
>>>>>>> wounded, according to police.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The violent holiday weekend came as President Donald Trump renewed
>>>>>>> threats to send federal agents and National Guard troops to Chicago
>>>>>>> over the objections of Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker and Chicago Mayor
>>>>>>> Brandon Johnson.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Trump on Saturday sent a warning to Pritzker in a post on his social
>>>>>>> media platform, referencing recent crime in Chicago and saying
>>>>>>> Pritzker "better straighten it out, FAST, or we're coming!"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pritzker, a Democrat, responded in a news conference a week ago to an
>>>>>>> earlier Trump threat to "straighten out Chicago, just like we did
>>>>>>> D.C.," by saying that the president's plan was "unprecedented and
>>>>>>> unwarranted. It is illegal, it is unconstitutional, it is
>>>>>>> un-American."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://abcnews.go.com/US/35-shot-weekend-chicago-governor-rejects-trumps-threat/story?id=125134744
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah cause crime and murder is better....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So why isn't Trump sending troops any of the 91 other cities in the US
>>>>>> that have higher rates of violent crime?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or the 21 cities that have higher rates of murder and non-negligent
>>>>>> manslaughter?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If this is really about making people safer, shouldn't you be sending
>>>>>> people to where they will do the most good?
>>>>>
>>>>> The governor and mayor of Chicago were both all over the airwaves singing
>>>> >from the same hymnal, page 99, "Threat To Democracy" song.
>>>>> They are both disgusting.
>>>>>
>>>>> They have a serious problem in Chicago.
>>>>> Funding illegal migrants when students in the school system can't read or write.
>>>>> Crime running rampant and not just this weekend, but EVERY WEEKEND.
>>>>>
>>>>> And as usual the left is squawking "what about xxx city and yyy city which have higher
>>>>> crime rates" and so forth.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tell that to the families of the people who lost their lives in Chicago over this and
>>>>> seemingly every weekend.
>>>>>
>>>>> Again, it puzzles me why the left isn't concerned about protecting the citizens within
>>>>> their own communities?
>>>>> It makes no sense at all.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is why the democrat party is cratering.
>>>>
>>>> *yawn* Same old right wing, blind claptrap.
>>>
>>> Maybe the left should begin listening to the people because
>>> it's undeniable that the democrat party is cratering and doubling down
>>> on the same failed policies is only going to make things worse for them.
>>>
>>> Heck, even MSNBC Morning Joe show, ultra left wing, is recommending that
>>> Illinois governor Prtizker work with Trump to save Chicago.
>>>
>>> <https://www.msnbc.com/top-stories/latest/trump-pritzker-partnership-fight-crime-chicago-gun-violence-rcna228586>
>>>
>>> People are tired of liberals ruining things and you can spin every number you
>>> wish but it's voter's perception and personal experience that counts.
>>
>> It's very simple math: if Chicago would enforce existing law, there
>> would be no need for federal intervention.
> > > Why do they refuse to protect their own citizens?
>
>Exactly which laws are the refusing to enforce?
Show us where all the people accused of murder have been put on trial
and jailed.
"A string of killings, shootings, and teen mobs taking over Chicago
streets worsened this weekend with the fatal shooting of a 16-year-old
near The Bean sculpture off Michigan Avenue in Millennium Park. A
suspect was charged with second-degree murder, but 33 were shot this
weekend, five fatally. Its the third such weekend within the last
month. Weekdays have been bad, too. Many say the citys coming apart.
Why did they have to kill my Daddy, asked one daughter last week
after two were slain in Humboldt Park. A woman was murdered after
trying to face down burglars in her Gresham home on the South Side.
Six more armed robberies were committed in several hours by a prolific
crew in Edgewater.
At the root of it all: consequences for criminals are rare. Thats
shown by arrest rates we calculated from Chicago Police data for 2021
versus the baseline pre-Covid and pre-George Floyd year of 2019. Its
also shown by actual prosecution rates for murder in both years. The
big take-away: until they get a tougher message, the bad actors wont
let up.
Chicago arrest rates are encouraging to criminals, and discouraging to
the law-abiding. A recent four-year crime data summary report from CPD
details how many major crimes have been committed in selected
categories. Combined with corresponding arrest data in CPDs 2019
Annual Report and from CPDs response to our public records request
about 2021 arrest totals, we were able to calculate arrest rates for
2019 and 2021 for several major crimes. We focused on categories
devoid of statistical noise. The results are alarming.
The arrest rate for motor vehicle theft dropped from 27 percent in
2019 to 10 percent in 2021. For aggravated battery it dropped from 20
percent in 2019 to 11 percent in 2021. For robbery it declined from 16
percent in 2019 to 9 percent in 2021. Even those that dropped only
slightly from 2019 to 2021 were alarmingly low last year. The arrest
rate in 2021 for criminal sexual assault in Chicago was only 19
percent. For burglary it was 5 percent."
https://wirepoints.org/crime-but-few-arrests-and-prosecutions-in-chicago/