From: NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism
Subject: Re: Illinois governer rebuffs federal intervention to prevent Chicago murders - does nothing instead
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2025 09:09:46 -0400
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On Thu, 4 Sep 2025 08:56:00 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>On 2025-09-04 07:31, NoBody wrote:
>> On Wed, 3 Sep 2025 19:56:39 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2025-09-02 07:40, NoBody wrote:
>>>> On Mon, 1 Sep 2025 19:03:47 -0000 (UTC), pothead
>>>> <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2025-09-01, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On 2025-09-01 10:05, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>> Shouldn't the governor take a hint and enforce laws in Chicago?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> At least 53 people have been shot, seven fatally, across Chicago over
>>>>>>> Labor Day weekend, including a drive-by attack that left seven victims
>>>>>>> wounded, according to police.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The violent holiday weekend came as President Donald Trump renewed
>>>>>>> threats to send federal agents and National Guard troops to Chicago
>>>>>>> over the objections of Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker and Chicago Mayor
>>>>>>> Brandon Johnson.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Trump on Saturday sent a warning to Pritzker in a post on his social
>>>>>>> media platform, referencing recent crime in Chicago and saying
>>>>>>> Pritzker "better straighten it out, FAST, or we're coming!"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pritzker, a Democrat, responded in a news conference a week ago to an
>>>>>>> earlier Trump threat to "straighten out Chicago, just like we did
>>>>>>> D.C.," by saying that the president's plan was "unprecedented and
>>>>>>> unwarranted. It is illegal, it is unconstitutional, it is
>>>>>>> un-American."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://abcnews.go.com/US/35-shot-weekend-chicago-governor-rejects-trumps-threat/story?id=125134744
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah cause crime and murder is better....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So why isn't Trump sending troops any of the 91 other cities in the US
>>>>>> that have higher rates of violent crime?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or the 21 cities that have higher rates of murder and non-negligent
>>>>>> manslaughter?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If this is really about making people safer, shouldn't you be sending
>>>>>> people to where they will do the most good?
>>>>>
>>>>> The governor and mayor of Chicago were both all over the airwaves singing
>>>> >from the same hymnal, page 99, "Threat To Democracy" song.
>>>>> They are both disgusting.
>>>>
>>>> It seems they actually *want* people dead.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> They have a serious problem in Chicago.
>>>>> Funding illegal migrants when students in the school system can't read or write.
>>>>> Crime running rampant and not just this weekend, but EVERY WEEKEND.
>>>>>
>>>>> And as usual the left is squawking "what about xxx city and yyy city which have higher
>>>>> crime rates" and so forth.
>>>>
>>>> Yep. Diversions all.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Tell that to the families of the people who lost their lives in Chicago over this and
>>>>> seemingly every weekend.
>>>>>
>>>>> Again, it puzzles me why the left isn't concerned about protecting the citizens within
>>>>> their own communities?
>>>>> It makes no sense at all.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The politicians want their communities to be hellholes. It's the only
>>>> possible answer.
>>> So if Trump is applying resources in places where the problem ISN'T worst...
>>>
>>> ...does he want those communities where it IS worst to be hellholes?
>>
>> This is your standard go to, run away response.
>> Stick to the topic of Chicago and the politicians' refusal to enforce
>> laws please.
>
>First prove that there is a "refusal to enforce laws".
>
>What laws?
A string of killings, shootings, and teen mobs taking over Chicago
streets worsened this weekend with the fatal shooting of a 16-year-old
near The Bean sculpture off Michigan Avenue in Millennium Park. A
suspect was charged with second-degree murder, but 33 were shot this
weekend, five fatally. Its the third such weekend within the last
month. Weekdays have been bad, too. Many say the citys coming apart.
Why did they have to kill my Daddy, asked one daughter last week
after two were slain in Humboldt Park. A woman was murdered after
trying to face down burglars in her Gresham home on the South Side.
Six more armed robberies were committed in several hours by a prolific
crew in Edgewater.
At the root of it all: consequences for criminals are rare. Thats
shown by arrest rates we calculated from Chicago Police data for 2021
versus the baseline pre-Covid and pre-George Floyd year of 2019. Its
also shown by actual prosecution rates for murder in both years. The
big take-away: until they get a tougher message, the bad actors wont
let up.
Chicago arrest rates are encouraging to criminals, and discouraging to
the law-abiding. A recent four-year crime data summary report from CPD
details how many major crimes have been committed in selected
categories. Combined with corresponding arrest data in CPDs 2019
Annual Report and from CPDs response to our public records request
about 2021 arrest totals, we were able to calculate arrest rates for
2019 and 2021 for several major crimes. We focused on categories
devoid of statistical noise. The results are alarming.
The arrest rate for motor vehicle theft dropped from 27 percent in
2019 to 10 percent in 2021. For aggravated battery it dropped from 20
percent in 2019 to 11 percent in 2021. For robbery it declined from 16
percent in 2019 to 9 percent in 2021. Even those that dropped only
slightly from 2019 to 2021 were alarmingly low last year. The arrest
rate in 2021 for criminal sexual assault in Chicago was only 19
percent. For burglary it was 5 percent.
https://wirepoints.org/crime-but-few-arrests-and-prosecutions-in-chicago/