From: pothead <pothead@snakebite.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism
Subject: Re: Illinois governer rebuffs federal intervention to prevent
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2025 14:06:03 -0000 (UTC)
Organization: Muffler Bearings LLC
On 2025-09-05, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Sep 2025 08:56:00 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>On 2025-09-04 07:31, NoBody wrote:
>>> On Wed, 3 Sep 2025 19:56:39 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2025-09-02 07:40, NoBody wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, 1 Sep 2025 19:03:47 -0000 (UTC), pothead
>>>>> <pothead@snakebite.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2025-09-01, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On 2025-09-01 10:05, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>> Shouldn't the governor take a hint and enforce laws in Chicago?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> At least 53 people have been shot, seven fatally, across Chicago over
>>>>>>>> Labor Day weekend, including a drive-by attack that left seven victims
>>>>>>>> wounded, according to police.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The violent holiday weekend came as President Donald Trump renewed
>>>>>>>> threats to send federal agents and National Guard troops to Chicago
>>>>>>>> over the objections of Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker and Chicago Mayor
>>>>>>>> Brandon Johnson.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Trump on Saturday sent a warning to Pritzker in a post on his social
>>>>>>>> media platform, referencing recent crime in Chicago and saying
>>>>>>>> Pritzker "better straighten it out, FAST, or we're coming!"
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Pritzker, a Democrat, responded in a news conference a week ago to an
>>>>>>>> earlier Trump threat to "straighten out Chicago, just like we did
>>>>>>>> D.C.," by saying that the president's plan was "unprecedented and
>>>>>>>> unwarranted. It is illegal, it is unconstitutional, it is
>>>>>>>> un-American."
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://abcnews.go.com/US/35-shot-weekend-chicago-governor-rejects-trumps-threat/story?id=125134744
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yeah cause crime and murder is better....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So why isn't Trump sending troops any of the 91 other cities in the US
>>>>>>> that have higher rates of violent crime?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or the 21 cities that have higher rates of murder and non-negligent
>>>>>>> manslaughter?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_cities_by_crime_rate>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If this is really about making people safer, shouldn't you be sending
>>>>>>> people to where they will do the most good?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The governor and mayor of Chicago were both all over the airwaves singing
>>>>> >from the same hymnal, page 99, "Threat To Democracy" song.
>>>>>> They are both disgusting.
>>>>>
>>>>> It seems they actually *want* people dead.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They have a serious problem in Chicago.
>>>>>> Funding illegal migrants when students in the school system can't read or write.
>>>>>> Crime running rampant and not just this weekend, but EVERY WEEKEND.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And as usual the left is squawking "what about xxx city and yyy city which have higher
>>>>>> crime rates" and so forth.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep. Diversions all.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tell that to the families of the people who lost their lives in Chicago over this and
>>>>>> seemingly every weekend.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Again, it puzzles me why the left isn't concerned about protecting the citizens within
>>>>>> their own communities?
>>>>>> It makes no sense at all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The politicians want their communities to be hellholes. It's the only
>>>>> possible answer.
>>>> So if Trump is applying resources in places where the problem ISN'T worst...
>>>>
>>>> ...does he want those communities where it IS worst to be hellholes?
>>>
>>> This is your standard go to, run away response.
>>> Stick to the topic of Chicago and the politicians' refusal to enforce
>>> laws please.
>>
>>First prove that there is a "refusal to enforce laws".
>>
>>What laws?
>
>
> A string of killings, shootings, and teen mobs taking over Chicago
> streets worsened this weekend with the fatal shooting of a 16-year-old
> near ÂThe Bean sculpture off Michigan Avenue in Millennium Park. A
> suspect was charged with second-degree murder, but 33 were shot this
> weekend, five fatally. ItÂs the third such weekend within the last
> month. Weekdays have been bad, too. Many say the cityÂs coming apart.
> Why did they have to kill my Daddy, asked one daughter last week
> after two were slain in Humboldt Park. A woman was murdered after
> trying to face down burglars in her Gresham home on the South Side.
> Six more armed robberies were committed in several hours by a prolific
> crew in Edgewater.
>
> At the root of it all: consequences for criminals are rare. ThatÂs
> shown by arrest rates we calculated from Chicago Police data for 2021
> versus the baseline pre-Covid and pre-George Floyd year of 2019. ItÂs
> also shown by actual prosecution rates for murder in both years. The
> big take-away: until they get a tougher message, the bad actors wonÂt
> let up.
>
> Chicago arrest rates are encouraging to criminals, and discouraging to
> the law-abiding. A recent four-year crime data summary report from CPD
> details how many major crimes have been committed in selected
> categories. Combined with corresponding arrest data in CPDÂs 2019
> Annual Report and from CPDÂs response to our public records request
> about 2021 arrest totals, we were able to calculate arrest rates for
> 2019 and 2021 for several major crimes. We focused on categories
> devoid of statistical noise. The results are alarming.
>
> The arrest rate for motor vehicle theft dropped from 27 percent in
> 2019 to 10 percent in 2021. For aggravated battery it dropped from 20
> percent in 2019 to 11 percent in 2021. For robbery it declined from 16
> percent in 2019 to 9 percent in 2021. Even those that dropped only
> slightly from 2019 to 2021 were alarmingly low last year. The arrest
> rate in 2021 for criminal sexual assault in Chicago was only 19
> percent. For burglary it was 5 percent.
>
> https://wirepoints.org/crime-but-few-arrests-and-prosecutions-in-chicago/
All points that the left ignore.
And if Trump went to a city other than Chicago, they would be whining "why
isn't Trump going to Chicago?".
Anything to attack Trump is what the left is all about.
--
pothead
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