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On 2025-09-05 10:38, Chris Voigtlander wrote:
> On 9/5/2025 9:38 AM, super70s wrote:
>> On 2025-09-05 14:35:20 +0000, Chris Voigtlander said:
>>
>>> On 9/5/2025 7:00 AM, super70s wrote:
>>>> On 2025-09-05 12:16:54 +0000, -hh said:
>>>>
>>>>> On 9/5/25 00:40, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 4 Sep 2025 08:41:10 -0400, -hh
>>>>>> <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 9/3/25 18:38, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-03, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-03 15:07, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-03, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> ...to we Canadians, anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.tradingplatforms.co.uk/research/the-worlds- 
>>>>>>>>>>> smartest- nations-ranking-intelligence-in-2025/>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Canada: 10th.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The US of A: Didn't crack the top 20.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> By IQ, Canada was 11th and the US...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ...25th.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In fact, there isn't a single metric there that has the US 
>>>>>>>>>>> ahead of Canada.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And Florida...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ...ranks 13th in IQ...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ...13th from last.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/average-iq- 
>>>>>>>>>>> by-state>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> And how much money is the Teacher's Union and DOE getting each 
>>>>>>>>>> year?
>>>>>>>>>> Obviously they are failing and have been failing for a long time.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Isn't it great that you know all the answers?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I see 2 agencies getting tons of money and I see students who 
>>>>>>>> are not learning.
>>>>>>>> There is nothing more to know.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The DoE doesn't teach students.  Nor does it fund teachers Unions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We are wasting money that obviously isn't helping students learn.
>>>>>>>> Common sense.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nope. So much for pothead's attempt to logic correlation into 
>>>>>>> causality.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> American kids don't need education or life preparation.  They're
>>>>>> entitled.
>>>>>
>>>>> Only the MAGAs are entitled.
>>>>> Everyone else needs to lower their head, bow, and leave the country.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -hh
>>>>
>>>> The right wants to use taxpayer money for vouchers instead of 
>>>> letting those mostly already well off families fund their kids' 
>>>> private education themselves.
>>>>
>>>> My red state instituted vouchers last year and they don't even 
>>>> bother to track how much income families receiving vouchers have.
>>>>
>>>> So I don't need any lectures on wasteful education spending from the 
>>>> right.
>>>
>>> I can't see any reason why there should be government owned and 
>>> operated schools. When we provide housing assistance to needy people, 
>>> we don't force them to live in government barracks — we give them 
>>> Section 8 vouchers and they go find a privately provided residence. 
>>> When we give food assistance, we don't force people to shop in 
>>> government commissaries — we give them SNAP and EBT cards and they 
>>> shop in commercial grocery stores like everyone else. When we provide 
>>> assistance for medical care, we don't force people to government 
>>> clinics — we give them Medicaid and they go to private providers like 
>>> everyone else.
>>>
>>> Schools should be no different.
>>
>> Sure privatize everything even schools, then you're accountable to no 
>> one except the stockholders who are concerned foremost with profits 
>> and not education.
>>
>> Private prisons are some of the most mismanaged and violent prisons we 
>> have.
> 
> Private prisons are not comparable to schools. The prisoners are not 
> "consumers" of the prisons, and they do not have and should not have any 
> choice in which prison they are to serve their sentences. The consumers 
> of education services *should* have choice in which schools they wish to 
> use.

Private prisons aren't perfectly comparable to schools, but there are 
some unavoidable parallels.

Schools require large facilities to accommodate the students, and while 
in theory, consumers can have "choice", it isn't practical to have 
duplication of those large facilities within reasonable travel distance 
of any neighbourhood.

So in all likelihood, there would only be a best a couple of "choices" 
for most "consumers" (parents, actually) to decide between.

Lack of choice, large expensive facilities...

...that's a situation ripe for monopolization and price-fixing.

Show me an area of society where leaving it to private enterprise has 
worked when there is no feasible way for the "consumers" to opt out of 
choosing it entirely.