From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: LOL... Can't Refute, so just snip it out!
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2025 12:41:16 -0700
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On 2025-09-04 21:19, AlleyCat wrote:
>
> On Wed, 3 Sep 2025 15:46:39 -0700, Alan says...
>
>> On 2025-09-01 21:14, AlleyCat wrote:
>>>
>>> Thinking that country can run on breezes is worse than
>>> delusional
>>>
>>> A two-megawatt windmill is made up of 260 tons of steel that
>>> required 300 tons of iron ore and 170 tons of coking coal, all
>>> mined, transported and produced by hydrocarbons.
>>
>> Wind turbine. A windMILL is a mill for grain that uses the wind to
>> power it.
>
> He's always called them "windmills", and there's absolutely NOTHING
> wrong with that.
Putting back all the refutations you snippped.
> They each consume 10'000 liters (more than 2600 gallons) of crude
> oil based lubricants per year.
No. They don't.
(And I refuted this in detail in another post)
>
> When outdated, the wind turbines are being buried deep in forests,
> out of public view, due to the high costs associated with> recycling them.
>
> A windmill could spin until it falls apart and it will NEVER, EVER
> generate as much energy as it was used in building it.
Sorry, but that's just false.
A 2 MW wind turbine generates generates 2 MWh of electricity every hour
the wind is blowing. It takes about 3,300 - 4,100 MWh of energy to build
one.
So 1,650 - 2,050 hours of wind will pay that off.
A year has 8,766 hours.
>
> Wind turbines Don't last forever. The metal towers can be recycled
> normally, but the blades, a mixture of fiberglass, wood, and
> plastic, cannot.
Also false.
> In the US, the cheapest option is to send fiberglass blades to
> landfills, which has caused some controversy. Just
> one blade is about as long as the wingspan of a large commercial jet
> like a Boeing 747. And that's just on land. Offshore turbine
> blades can be twice as long.
And you think they're impossible to cut into pieces?
> By 2050, there could be more than 40 million metric tons of blade
> waste piling up worldwide.
"Could be"? You seem to object to the word "could" when others use it.
But for the record, there are something between 380,000 and 500,000 wind
turbines in use worldwide. If the were all using the largest turbine
blades currently made (Mingyang Smart Energy MySE 18.X-20MW) at 54
metric tonnes...
...that would still only be 27 million metric tonnes.
>
> YOUR side says it too.
I have no "side", Loser.
My only "side" is what is factual; what is reality.
Now deal the fact that your claims were BULLSHIT.
>
> On 7/19/25 8:43 AM, Mitchell Holman wrote: Red state politicians may
> hate WINDMILLS but farmers and ranchers love them. They can make
> more money on WINDMILL leases than they ever did growing crops and
> running cattle.
>
> How are rural WINDMILLS any different from rural oil wells and gas
> wells and cell towers and powerline towers? Funny conservatives
> don't complain about THOSE.
Why would I care that other people also use the language poorly, Loser?
If I were talking to them, I'd make the same correction.
I'm only leaving the rest of your need to repeat yourself endlessly
intact, so you can't claim I snipped anything.
>
> =====
>
> https://mrelectric.com/us/en-us/mr-electric/_assets/images/Blog/mre-
> blog-windmills.webp https://mrelectric.com/blog/how-do-those-huge-
> windmills-work
>
>
> "China Threatens Europe's Windmills" https://cepa.org/article/china-
> threatens-europes-windmills/
>
>
> Windmills For Electricity Explained Windmills for electricity use
> wind energy to generate clean, renewable power. These wind turbines
> convert kinetic energy into electrical energy, reducing carbon
> emissions and dependence on fossil fuels. They are key components of
> sustainable energy systems in homes and power grids. https://
> electricityforum.com/windmills-for-electricity
>
> =====
>
> How Do Those Huge WINDMILLS Work? - Mr. Electric
>
> https://mrelectric.com/us/en-us/mr-electric/_assets/images/Blog/mre-
> blog-WINDMILLS.webp
>
> https://mrelectric.com/blog/how-do-those-huge-WINDMILLS-work
>
> Combined with a generator, a wind turbine can produce electricity to
> power nearby towns. Here's a more in-depth look at how this works:
> Wind turns the blades: A controller powers up the turbine so the
> blades start spinning when the built-in anemometer reads wind speeds
> between 8 and 16 miles per
>
> If you've ever spotted a wind farm consisting of huge WINDMILLS on
> the side of a country road, you've seen this renewable energy source
> in action.
>
> What is a Wind Turbine?
>
> Huge WINDMILLS, ALSO called wind turbines, typically have two or
> three blades that turn when the wind blows fast enough.
>
> =====
>
> How Do WINDMILLS Generate Electricity? - KP ENERGY
>
> https://kpenergy.in/WINDMILLS-generate-electricity
>
> Discover how wind energy is converted into electrical power and how
> WINDMILLS produce electricity. Learn about how it works and
> advantages of this sustainable energy source. Get Location +91 261
> 2244757; Home About . Vision and Values; ... The marginal cost of
> producing wind energy is comparatively low, notwithstanding the
> potential for large ...
>
> =====
>
> How Do WINDMILLS Generate Electricity? - Bright Hub Engineering
>
> https://www.brighthubengineering.com/power-generation-
> distribution/71003-how-WINDMILLS-generate-electricity/
>
> A wind turbine is a machine that coverts wind energy into
> electricity. The generators are connected to battery charging
> circuits and finally to large utility grids. In WINDMILLS the wind
> passes through the airfoil section of the blades and the lift
> produced generates a torque which is then transformed to electricity
> in the generator.
>
> =====
>
> WINDMILLS For Electricity Production - Electrical Fundamentals
>
> https://electricityforum.com/WINDMILLS-for-electricity
>
> The most modern generations of WINDMILLS for electricity are more
> properly called wind turbines, or wind generators, and are primarily
> used to generate electric power. Modern WINDMILLS are designed to
> convert the energy of the wind into electricity. The largest wind
> turbines can generate up to 6MW of
>
> =====
>
> WINDMILL Power Diagram: Building An Electricity Producing Turbine
>
> https://electronicmanufacturingservice.org/WINDMILL-power-diagram-
> building-an-electricity-producing-turbine/
>
> Nov 8,2024 - Wind turbines harness this moving air to generate
> electricity. As the wind blows, it turns the blades of the turbine,
> which are connected to a shaft. The shaft spins an electric
> generator to produce electricity.
>
> Introduction to WINDMILL Power
>
> Harnessing the power of the wind is one of the oldest forms of
> renewable energy used by humans. For centuries, WINDMILLS have been
> used to grind grain, pump water, and more recently, GENERATE
> ELECTRICITY.
>
> In this article, we will explore the components and process of
> building a WINDMILL power system to produce electricity. With the
> right knowledge, skills, and resources, you can build a WINDMILL
> power system to meet your energy needs and contribute to a greener
> future.
>
> =====
>
> California's Electricity Producing WINDMILLS | Gilad Koriski's ...
>
> https://blog.koriski.com/california-electricity-producing-WINDMILLS/
>
> A photography blog post | View this post on Instagram #California
> #electricity #producing #WINDMILLS A post shared by Gilad Koriski
> (@koriskidotcom) on Dec 10,2013 at 2:55pm PST by photographer Gilad
> Koriski
>
> Flying low above California's electricity-producing WINDMILLS makes
> for great photography opportunities, this is only one of a large
> series.
>
> =====
>
> China Threatens Europe's Wind Mills - Cepa
>
> https://cepa.org/article/china-threatens-europes-WINDMILLS/
>
> Oct 17,2024 - The world's largest wind turbines rise off the shore
> of China's Fujian Province in the Taiwan Strait. Designed to
> withstand tropical storms, a giant Chinese-made turbine - with a
> rotor diameter of 252 meters - broke a world record last year by
> producing enough energy to power
>
> =====
>
> An Electric Company Buys Energy From "WINDMILL Farms" That H -
> Quizlet
>
> https://quizlet.com/explanations/questions/an-electric-company-buys-
> energy-from-WINDMILL-farms-that-have-WINDMILLS-of-two-sizes- one-
> producing-1-a8b6592d-8211-4d66-b7c8-6212 - Bb5fa8c3
>
> Find step-by-step Algebra 2 solutions and your answer to the
> following textbook question: An electric company buys energy from
> "WINDMILL farms" that have WINDMILLS of two sizes, one producing 1.5
> megawatts of power and one producing 2.5 megawatts of power. The
> company wants a total power supply of at least 180 megawatts. Write
> and graph an inequality describing how many of each size of ...
>
> An electric company buys energy from "WINDMILL farms" that have
> WINDMILLS of two sizes, one producing 1.5 megawatts of power and one
> producing 2.5 megawatts of power. The company wants a total power
> supply of at least 180 megawatts. Write and graph an inequality
> describing how many of each size of WINDMILL it takes to supply the
> electric company.
>
>