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On 9/5/25 10:35, Chris Voigtlander wrote:
> On 9/5/2025 7:00 AM, super70s wrote:
>> On 2025-09-05 12:16:54 +0000, -hh said:
>>> On 9/5/25 00:40, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>> -hh wrote:
>>>>> ...
>>>>> Nope. So much for pothead's attempt to logic correlation into 
>>>>> causality.
>>>>
>>>> American kids don't need education or life preparation.  They're
>>>> entitled.
>>>
>>> Only the MAGAs are entitled.
>>> Everyone else needs to lower their head, bow, and leave the country.
>>
>> The right wants to use taxpayer money for vouchers instead of letting 
>> those mostly already well off families fund their kids' private 
>> education themselves.

Plus those private schools often have fewer state testing standards than 
what the State imposes on their public schools.  This knowingly protects 
those private providers who perform worse than the public schools from 
being detected & outed.

>> My red state instituted vouchers last year and they don't even bother 
>> to track how much income families receiving vouchers have.I can recall a neighborhood kid who went to private school in 
Elementary/Middle.  When they moved over to the public high school, they 
had to repeat a year because there was so much basic stuff that they 
hadn't learned.

>> So I don't need any lectures on wasteful education spending from the 
>> right.
> 
> I can't see any reason why there should be government owned and operated 
> schools.  
The basic history of public education is that it was recognized as a 
public good for democracy and dates back to Plato in ancient Greece.

In the USA, it becoming compulsory was church-initiated, by the Puritins 
in MA in the 1600s.  That probably was inspired by Scotland protestants.

In rural US, it just wasn't a profitable for a private for-profit 
enterprise to fill the need, so it was State-funded.

> When we provide housing assistance to needy people, we don't 
> force them to live in government barracks — we give them Section 8 
> vouchers and they go find a privately provided residence. When we give 
> food assistance, we don't force people to shop in government 
> commissaries — we give them SNAP and EBT cards and they shop in 
> commercial grocery stores like everyone else. When we provide assistance 
> for medical care, we don't force people to government clinics — we give 
> them Medicaid and they go to private providers like everyone else.
> 
> Schools should be no different.
Well, you can start down that road by telling your congressman that they 
should all then meet the same student testing standards, so as to wipe 
out the shitty private schools which perform below the public minimum.

While you're at it, decide if you're going to also impose minimum wage 
requirements for the educators.  I ran into an old friend some time ago 
working in a bookstore; learned that they'd graduated & was working as a 
teacher in private education as they couldn't get into public: that 
evening job was because the pay was significantly lower in private.


-hh