From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.trump,can.politics
Subject: Re: Well this won't come as any shock...
Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2025 15:18:00 -0700
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On 2025-09-05 15:09, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 14:38:15 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2025-09-05 14:22, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 13:54:10 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2025-09-05 13:47, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 12:35:18 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2025-09-05 12:15, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 11:38:38 -0500, super70s
>>>>>>> <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-05 14:35:20 +0000, Chris Voigtlander said:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 9/5/2025 7:00 AM, super70s wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-05 12:16:54 +0000, -hh said:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/5/25 00:40, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 4 Sep 2025 08:41:10 -0400, -hh
>>>>>>>>>>>> <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/3/25 18:38, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-03, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-03 15:07, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-03, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...to we Canadians, anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.tradingplatforms.co.uk/research/the-worlds-smartest-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nations-ranking-intelligence-in-2025/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Canada: 10th.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The US of A: Didn't crack the top 20.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By IQ, Canada was 11th and the US...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...25th.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In fact, there isn't a single metric there that has the US ahead of Canada.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And Florida...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...ranks 13th in IQ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...13th from last.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/average-iq-by-state>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And how much money is the Teacher's Union and DOE getting each year?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obviously they are failing and have been failing for a long time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isn't it great that you know all the answers?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see 2 agencies getting tons of money and I see students who are not learning.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is nothing more to know.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The DoE doesn't teach students. Nor does it fund teachers Unions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are wasting money that obviously isn't helping students learn.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Common sense.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. So much for pothead's attempt to logic correlation into causality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> American kids don't need education or life preparation. They're
>>>>>>>>>>>> entitled.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Only the MAGAs are entitled.
>>>>>>>>>>> Everyone else needs to lower their head, bow, and leave the country.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -hh
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The right wants to use taxpayer money for vouchers instead of letting
>>>>>>>>>> those mostly already well off families fund their kids' private
>>>>>>>>>> education themselves.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My red state instituted vouchers last year and they don't even bother
>>>>>>>>>> to track how much income families receiving vouchers have.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So I don't need any lectures on wasteful education spending from the right.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I can't see any reason why there should be government owned and
>>>>>>>>> operated schools. When we provide housing assistance to needy people,
>>>>>>>>> we don't force them to live in government barracks â we give them
>>>>>>>>> Section 8 vouchers and they go find a privately provided residence.
>>>>>>>>> When we give food assistance, we don't force people to shop in
>>>>>>>>> government commissaries â we give them SNAP and EBT cards and they shop
>>>>>>>>> in commercial grocery stores like everyone else. When we provide
>>>>>>>>> assistance for medical care, we don't force people to government
>>>>>>>>> clinics â we give them Medicaid and they go to private providers like
>>>>>>>>> everyone else.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Schools should be no different.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sure privatize everything even schools, then you're accountable to no
>>>>>>>> one except the stockholders who are concerned foremost with profits and
>>>>>>>> not education.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Private prisons are some of the most mismanaged and violent prisons we have.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> According to the leftist loonies, anyway...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> According to just about everyone who doesn't own a private prison:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://time.com/5884104/prison-violence-dont-see/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://www.aclu.org/news/smart-justice/private-prisons-are-problem-not-solution>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://eji.org/news/prisoner-abuse-in-private-prison-transport-industry/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/bja/181249.pdf>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://systemicjustice.org/article/private-contracts-in-public-prisons-how-corporate-power-allows-for-the-exploitation-of-incarcerated-people-and-their-loved-ones/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://www.vox.com/2016/8/12/12454410/private-prisons-violence-investigation>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://oig.justice.gov/reports/2016/e1606.pdf>
>>>>>
>>>>> <chuckle> Leftist sources say...
>>>>
>>>> George W Bush's DoJ is a "leftist source", now?
>>>
>>> Not leftist, but pretty weak kneed...
>>>
>>>> But keep ignoring the facts.
>
> No facts, only opinions.
>
>> Produce some rebuttals...
>
> Rebuttals to opinions? Really?
>
>> Before laws protecting workers, before unions, capitalist businesses
>> abused, and mistreated workers terribly.
>>
>> Why in the world would you think that capitalist prisons wouldn't do so?
>>
>> <https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/2020/10/how-private-prisons-profit-from-forced-labor>
>
> Those laws apply to private prisons, dumbass.
Ummmmm...
...no. They don't.
'The 13th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution abolished slavery, but it
included an exception: Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude shall
exist, it declares, except as punishment for a crime. Prison rights
advocates say this exception allows for forced labor in prisons.'
And the actual text:
'Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a
punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted,
shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their
jurisdiction.'