From: LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.trump,can.politics
Subject: Re: Well this won't come as any shock...
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2025 18:22:04 -0400
Organization: laughing at far leftists
On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 15:18:00 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>On 2025-09-05 15:09, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 14:38:15 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2025-09-05 14:22, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 13:54:10 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2025-09-05 13:47, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 12:35:18 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2025-09-05 12:15, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 11:38:38 -0500, super70s
>>>>>>>> <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-05 14:35:20 +0000, Chris Voigtlander said:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/5/2025 7:00 AM, super70s wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-05 12:16:54 +0000, -hh said:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/5/25 00:40, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 4 Sep 2025 08:41:10 -0400, -hh
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/3/25 18:38, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-03, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-03 15:07, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-03, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...to we Canadians, anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.tradingplatforms.co.uk/research/the-worlds-smartest-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nations-ranking-intelligence-in-2025/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Canada: 10th.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The US of A: Didn't crack the top 20.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By IQ, Canada was 11th and the US...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...25th.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In fact, there isn't a single metric there that has the US ahead of Canada.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And Florida...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...ranks 13th in IQ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...13th from last.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/average-iq-by-state>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And how much money is the Teacher's Union and DOE getting each year?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obviously they are failing and have been failing for a long time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isn't it great that you know all the answers?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see 2 agencies getting tons of money and I see students who are not learning.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is nothing more to know.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The DoE doesn't teach students. Nor does it fund teachers Unions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are wasting money that obviously isn't helping students learn.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Common sense.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. So much for pothead's attempt to logic correlation into causality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> American kids don't need education or life preparation. They're
>>>>>>>>>>>>> entitled.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Only the MAGAs are entitled.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Everyone else needs to lower their head, bow, and leave the country.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -hh
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The right wants to use taxpayer money for vouchers instead of letting
>>>>>>>>>>> those mostly already well off families fund their kids' private
>>>>>>>>>>> education themselves.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> My red state instituted vouchers last year and they don't even bother
>>>>>>>>>>> to track how much income families receiving vouchers have.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So I don't need any lectures on wasteful education spending from the right.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I can't see any reason why there should be government owned and
>>>>>>>>>> operated schools. When we provide housing assistance to needy people,
>>>>>>>>>> we don't force them to live in government barracks we give them
>>>>>>>>>> Section 8 vouchers and they go find a privately provided residence.
>>>>>>>>>> When we give food assistance, we don't force people to shop in
>>>>>>>>>> government commissaries we give them SNAP and EBT cards and they shop
>>>>>>>>>> in commercial grocery stores like everyone else. When we provide
>>>>>>>>>> assistance for medical care, we don't force people to government
>>>>>>>>>> clinics we give them Medicaid and they go to private providers like
>>>>>>>>>> everyone else.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Schools should be no different.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sure privatize everything even schools, then you're accountable to no
>>>>>>>>> one except the stockholders who are concerned foremost with profits and
>>>>>>>>> not education.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Private prisons are some of the most mismanaged and violent prisons we have.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> According to the leftist loonies, anyway...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> According to just about everyone who doesn't own a private prison:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://time.com/5884104/prison-violence-dont-see/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://www.aclu.org/news/smart-justice/private-prisons-are-problem-not-solution>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://eji.org/news/prisoner-abuse-in-private-prison-transport-industry/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/bja/181249.pdf>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://systemicjustice.org/article/private-contracts-in-public-prisons-how-corporate-power-allows-for-the-exploitation-of-incarcerated-people-and-their-loved-ones/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://www.vox.com/2016/8/12/12454410/private-prisons-violence-investigation>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://oig.justice.gov/reports/2016/e1606.pdf>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <chuckle> Leftist sources say...
>>>>>
>>>>> George W Bush's DoJ is a "leftist source", now?
>>>>
>>>> Not leftist, but pretty weak kneed...
>>>>
>>>>> But keep ignoring the facts.
>>
>> No facts, only opinions.
>>
>>> Produce some rebuttals...
>>
>> Rebuttals to opinions? Really?
>>
>>> Before laws protecting workers, before unions, capitalist businesses
>>> abused, and mistreated workers terribly.
>>>
>>> Why in the world would you think that capitalist prisons wouldn't do so?
>>>
>>> <https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/2020/10/how-private-prisons-profit-from-forced-labor>
>>
>> Those laws apply to private prisons, dumbass.
>
>Ummmmm...
>
>...no. They don't.
>
>'The 13th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution abolished slavery, but it
>included an exception: Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude shall
>exist, it declares, except as punishment for a crime. Prison rights
>advocates say this exception allows for forced labor in prisons.'
>
>And the actual text:
>
>'Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a
>punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted,
>shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their
>jurisdiction.'
>
<chuckle> Criminals need to be confined where they can't continue to
prey on the people. Their unhappiness is not my concern.