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On 2025-09-05 15:22, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 15:18:00 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2025-09-05 15:09, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 14:38:15 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2025-09-05 14:22, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 13:54:10 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2025-09-05 13:47, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 12:35:18 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-05 12:15, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 11:38:38 -0500, super70s
>>>>>>>>> <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-05 14:35:20 +0000, Chris Voigtlander said:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/5/2025 7:00 AM, super70s wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-05 12:16:54 +0000, -hh said:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/5/25 00:40, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 4 Sep 2025 08:41:10 -0400, -hh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/3/25 18:38, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-03, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-03 15:07, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-03, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...to we Canadians, anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.tradingplatforms.co.uk/research/the-worlds-smartest-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nations-ranking-intelligence-in-2025/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Canada: 10th.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The US of A: Didn't crack the top 20.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By IQ, Canada was 11th and the US...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...25th.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In fact, there isn't a single metric there that has the US ahead of Canada.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And Florida...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...ranks 13th in IQ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...13th from last.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/average-iq-by-state>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And how much money is the Teacher's Union and DOE getting each year?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obviously they are failing and have been failing for a long time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isn't it great that you know all the answers?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see 2 agencies getting tons of money and I see students who are not learning.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is nothing more to know.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The DoE doesn't teach students.  Nor does it fund teachers Unions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are wasting money that obviously isn't helping students learn.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Common sense.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. So much for pothead's attempt to logic correlation into causality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> American kids don't need education or life preparation.  They're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entitled.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only the MAGAs are entitled.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everyone else needs to lower their head, bow, and leave the country.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -hh
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The right wants to use taxpayer money for vouchers instead of letting
>>>>>>>>>>>> those mostly already well off families fund their kids' private
>>>>>>>>>>>> education themselves.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> My red state instituted vouchers last year and they don't even bother
>>>>>>>>>>>> to track how much income families receiving vouchers have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So I don't need any lectures on wasteful education spending from the right.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I can't see any reason why there should be government owned and
>>>>>>>>>>> operated schools. When we provide housing assistance to needy people,
>>>>>>>>>>> we don't force them to live in government barracks — we give them
>>>>>>>>>>> Section 8 vouchers and they go find a privately provided residence.
>>>>>>>>>>> When we give food assistance, we don't force people to shop in
>>>>>>>>>>> government commissaries — we give them SNAP and EBT cards and they shop
>>>>>>>>>>> in commercial grocery stores like everyone else. When we provide
>>>>>>>>>>> assistance for medical care, we don't force people to government
>>>>>>>>>>> clinics — we give them Medicaid and they go to private providers like
>>>>>>>>>>> everyone else.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Schools should be no different.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sure privatize everything even schools, then you're accountable to no
>>>>>>>>>> one except the stockholders who are concerned foremost with profits and
>>>>>>>>>> not education.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Private prisons are some of the most mismanaged and violent prisons we have.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> According to the leftist loonies, anyway...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> According to just about everyone who doesn't own a private prison:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <https://time.com/5884104/prison-violence-dont-see/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <https://www.aclu.org/news/smart-justice/private-prisons-are-problem-not-solution>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <https://eji.org/news/prisoner-abuse-in-private-prison-transport-industry/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/bja/181249.pdf>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <https://systemicjustice.org/article/private-contracts-in-public-prisons-how-corporate-power-allows-for-the-exploitation-of-incarcerated-people-and-their-loved-ones/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <https://www.vox.com/2016/8/12/12454410/private-prisons-violence-investigation>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <https://oig.justice.gov/reports/2016/e1606.pdf>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <chuckle> Leftist sources say...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> George W Bush's DoJ is a "leftist source", now?
>>>>>
>>>>> Not leftist, but pretty weak kneed...
>>>>>
>>>>>> But keep ignoring the facts.
>>>
>>> No facts, only opinions.
>>>
>>>> Produce some rebuttals...
>>>
>>> Rebuttals to opinions?  Really?
>>>
>>>> Before laws protecting workers, before unions, capitalist businesses
>>>> abused, and mistreated workers terribly.
>>>>
>>>> Why in the world would you think that capitalist prisons wouldn't do so?
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/2020/10/how-private-prisons-profit-from-forced-labor>
>>>
>>> Those laws apply to private prisons, dumbass.
>>
>> Ummmmm...
>>
>> ...no. They don't.
>>
>> 'The 13th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution abolished slavery, but it
>> included an exception: Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude shall
>> exist, it declares, except as punishment for a crime. Prison rights
>> advocates say this exception allows for forced labor in prisons.'
>>
>> And the actual text:
>>
>> 'Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a
>> punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted,
>> shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their
>> jurisdiction.'
>>
> 
> <chuckle> Criminals need to be confined where they can't continue to
> prey on the people. Their unhappiness is not my concern.

So you admit the laws don't apply...

...and you just don't care if people are abused and exploited.

Got it.