From: LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.trump,can.politics
Subject: Re: Well this won't come as any shock...
Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2025 19:51:02 -0400
Organization: laughing at far leftists
On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 15:54:59 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>On 2025-09-05 15:22, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 15:18:00 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2025-09-05 15:09, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 14:38:15 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2025-09-05 14:22, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 13:54:10 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2025-09-05 13:47, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 12:35:18 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-05 12:15, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 11:38:38 -0500, super70s
>>>>>>>>>> <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-05 14:35:20 +0000, Chris Voigtlander said:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/5/2025 7:00 AM, super70s wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-05 12:16:54 +0000, -hh said:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/5/25 00:40, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 4 Sep 2025 08:41:10 -0400, -hh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/3/25 18:38, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-03, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-03 15:07, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-03, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...to we Canadians, anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.tradingplatforms.co.uk/research/the-worlds-smartest-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nations-ranking-intelligence-in-2025/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Canada: 10th.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The US of A: Didn't crack the top 20.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By IQ, Canada was 11th and the US...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...25th.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In fact, there isn't a single metric there that has the US ahead of Canada.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And Florida...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...ranks 13th in IQ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...13th from last.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/average-iq-by-state>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And how much money is the Teacher's Union and DOE getting each year?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obviously they are failing and have been failing for a long time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isn't it great that you know all the answers?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see 2 agencies getting tons of money and I see students who are not learning.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is nothing more to know.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The DoE doesn't teach students. Nor does it fund teachers Unions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are wasting money that obviously isn't helping students learn.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Common sense.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. So much for pothead's attempt to logic correlation into causality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> American kids don't need education or life preparation. They're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entitled.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only the MAGAs are entitled.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everyone else needs to lower their head, bow, and leave the country.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -hh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The right wants to use taxpayer money for vouchers instead of letting
>>>>>>>>>>>>> those mostly already well off families fund their kids' private
>>>>>>>>>>>>> education themselves.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> My red state instituted vouchers last year and they don't even bother
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to track how much income families receiving vouchers have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I don't need any lectures on wasteful education spending from the right.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't see any reason why there should be government owned and
>>>>>>>>>>>> operated schools. When we provide housing assistance to needy people,
>>>>>>>>>>>> we don't force them to live in government barracks we give them
>>>>>>>>>>>> Section 8 vouchers and they go find a privately provided residence.
>>>>>>>>>>>> When we give food assistance, we don't force people to shop in
>>>>>>>>>>>> government commissaries we give them SNAP and EBT cards and they shop
>>>>>>>>>>>> in commercial grocery stores like everyone else. When we provide
>>>>>>>>>>>> assistance for medical care, we don't force people to government
>>>>>>>>>>>> clinics we give them Medicaid and they go to private providers like
>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone else.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Schools should be no different.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sure privatize everything even schools, then you're accountable to no
>>>>>>>>>>> one except the stockholders who are concerned foremost with profits and
>>>>>>>>>>> not education.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Private prisons are some of the most mismanaged and violent prisons we have.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> According to the leftist loonies, anyway...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> According to just about everyone who doesn't own a private prison:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <https://time.com/5884104/prison-violence-dont-see/>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <https://www.aclu.org/news/smart-justice/private-prisons-are-problem-not-solution>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <https://eji.org/news/prisoner-abuse-in-private-prison-transport-industry/>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/bja/181249.pdf>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <https://systemicjustice.org/article/private-contracts-in-public-prisons-how-corporate-power-allows-for-the-exploitation-of-incarcerated-people-and-their-loved-ones/>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <https://www.vox.com/2016/8/12/12454410/private-prisons-violence-investigation>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <https://oig.justice.gov/reports/2016/e1606.pdf>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <chuckle> Leftist sources say...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> George W Bush's DoJ is a "leftist source", now?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not leftist, but pretty weak kneed...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But keep ignoring the facts.
>>>>
>>>> No facts, only opinions.
>>>>
>>>>> Produce some rebuttals...
>>>>
>>>> Rebuttals to opinions? Really?
>>>>
>>>>> Before laws protecting workers, before unions, capitalist businesses
>>>>> abused, and mistreated workers terribly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Why in the world would you think that capitalist prisons wouldn't do so?
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/2020/10/how-private-prisons-profit-from-forced-labor>
>>>>
>>>> Those laws apply to private prisons, dumbass.
>>>
>>> Ummmmm...
>>>
>>> ...no. They don't.
>>>
>>> 'The 13th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution abolished slavery, but it
>>> included an exception: Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude shall
>>> exist, it declares, except as punishment for a crime. Prison rights
>>> advocates say this exception allows for forced labor in prisons.'
>>>
>>> And the actual text:
>>>
>>> 'Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a
>>> punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted,
>>> shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their
>>> jurisdiction.'
>>>
>>
>> <chuckle> Criminals need to be confined where they can't continue to
>> prey on the people. Their unhappiness is not my concern.
>
>So you admit the laws don't apply...
I admitted nothing of the sort, Asshat.
>...and you just don't care if people are abused and exploited.
Criminals do not get abused and exploited beyond their imprisonment.
>Got it.
>