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On 2025-09-05 16:51, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 15:54:59 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2025-09-05 15:22, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 15:18:00 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2025-09-05 15:09, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 14:38:15 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2025-09-05 14:22, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 13:54:10 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-05 13:47, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 12:35:18 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-05 12:15, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 11:38:38 -0500, super70s
>>>>>>>>>>> <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-05 14:35:20 +0000, Chris Voigtlander said:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/5/2025 7:00 AM, super70s wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-05 12:16:54 +0000, -hh said:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/5/25 00:40, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 4 Sep 2025 08:41:10 -0400, -hh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/3/25 18:38, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-03, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-03 15:07, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-03, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...to we Canadians, anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.tradingplatforms.co.uk/research/the-worlds-smartest-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nations-ranking-intelligence-in-2025/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Canada: 10th.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The US of A: Didn't crack the top 20.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By IQ, Canada was 11th and the US...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...25th.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In fact, there isn't a single metric there that has the US ahead of Canada.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And Florida...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...ranks 13th in IQ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...13th from last.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/average-iq-by-state>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And how much money is the Teacher's Union and DOE getting each year?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obviously they are failing and have been failing for a long time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isn't it great that you know all the answers?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see 2 agencies getting tons of money and I see students who are not learning.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is nothing more to know.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The DoE doesn't teach students.  Nor does it fund teachers Unions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are wasting money that obviously isn't helping students learn.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Common sense.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. So much for pothead's attempt to logic correlation into causality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> American kids don't need education or life preparation.  They're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entitled.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only the MAGAs are entitled.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everyone else needs to lower their head, bow, and leave the country.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -hh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The right wants to use taxpayer money for vouchers instead of letting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those mostly already well off families fund their kids' private
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> education themselves.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My red state instituted vouchers last year and they don't even bother
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to track how much income families receiving vouchers have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I don't need any lectures on wasteful education spending from the right.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't see any reason why there should be government owned and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> operated schools. When we provide housing assistance to needy people,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> we don't force them to live in government barracks — we give them
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Section 8 vouchers and they go find a privately provided residence.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> When we give food assistance, we don't force people to shop in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> government commissaries — we give them SNAP and EBT cards and they shop
>>>>>>>>>>>>> in commercial grocery stores like everyone else. When we provide
>>>>>>>>>>>>> assistance for medical care, we don't force people to government
>>>>>>>>>>>>> clinics — we give them Medicaid and they go to private providers like
>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone else.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Schools should be no different.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure privatize everything even schools, then you're accountable to no
>>>>>>>>>>>> one except the stockholders who are concerned foremost with profits and
>>>>>>>>>>>> not education.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Private prisons are some of the most mismanaged and violent prisons we have.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> According to the leftist loonies, anyway...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> According to just about everyone who doesn't own a private prison:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <https://time.com/5884104/prison-violence-dont-see/>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.aclu.org/news/smart-justice/private-prisons-are-problem-not-solution>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <https://eji.org/news/prisoner-abuse-in-private-prison-transport-industry/>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/bja/181249.pdf>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <https://systemicjustice.org/article/private-contracts-in-public-prisons-how-corporate-power-allows-for-the-exploitation-of-incarcerated-people-and-their-loved-ones/>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.vox.com/2016/8/12/12454410/private-prisons-violence-investigation>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <https://oig.justice.gov/reports/2016/e1606.pdf>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <chuckle> Leftist sources say...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> George W Bush's DoJ is a "leftist source", now?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not leftist, but pretty weak kneed...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> But keep ignoring the facts.
>>>>>
>>>>> No facts, only opinions.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Produce some rebuttals...
>>>>>
>>>>> Rebuttals to opinions?  Really?
>>>>>
>>>>>> Before laws protecting workers, before unions, capitalist businesses
>>>>>> abused, and mistreated workers terribly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why in the world would you think that capitalist prisons wouldn't do so?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/2020/10/how-private-prisons-profit-from-forced-labor>
>>>>>
>>>>> Those laws apply to private prisons, dumbass.
>>>>
>>>> Ummmmm...
>>>>
>>>> ...no. They don't.
>>>>
>>>> 'The 13th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution abolished slavery, but it
>>>> included an exception: Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude shall
>>>> exist, it declares, except as punishment for a crime. Prison rights
>>>> advocates say this exception allows for forced labor in prisons.'
>>>>
>>>> And the actual text:
>>>>
>>>> 'Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a
>>>> punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted,
>>>> shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their
>>>> jurisdiction.'
>>>>
>>>
>>> <chuckle> Criminals need to be confined where they can't continue to
>>> prey on the people. Their unhappiness is not my concern.
>>
>> So you admit the laws don't apply...
> 
> I admitted nothing of the sort, Asshat.

Yeah... ...you tacitly did.

> 
>> ...and you just don't care if people are abused and exploited.
> 
> Criminals do not get abused and exploited beyond their imprisonment.
So you're admitting the get abused and exploited DURING their 
imprisonment...

...and you're okay with that.

Got it.

Do you thing the abuse and exploitation is meted out in accordance with 
the severity of their offence?

Do you smoke pot, BTW?