From: LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.trump,can.politics
Subject: Re: Well this won't come as any shock...
Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2025 02:14:10 -0400
Organization: laughing at far leftists
On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 16:57:40 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>On 2025-09-05 16:51, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 15:54:59 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2025-09-05 15:22, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 15:18:00 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2025-09-05 15:09, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 14:38:15 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2025-09-05 14:22, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 13:54:10 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-05 13:47, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 12:35:18 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-05 12:15, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 11:38:38 -0500, super70s
>>>>>>>>>>>> <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-05 14:35:20 +0000, Chris Voigtlander said:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/5/2025 7:00 AM, super70s wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-05 12:16:54 +0000, -hh said:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/5/25 00:40, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 4 Sep 2025 08:41:10 -0400, -hh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/3/25 18:38, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-03, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-03 15:07, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-03, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...to we Canadians, anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.tradingplatforms.co.uk/research/the-worlds-smartest-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nations-ranking-intelligence-in-2025/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Canada: 10th.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The US of A: Didn't crack the top 20.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By IQ, Canada was 11th and the US...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...25th.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In fact, there isn't a single metric there that has the US ahead of Canada.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And Florida...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...ranks 13th in IQ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...13th from last.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/average-iq-by-state>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And how much money is the Teacher's Union and DOE getting each year?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obviously they are failing and have been failing for a long time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isn't it great that you know all the answers?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see 2 agencies getting tons of money and I see students who are not learning.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is nothing more to know.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The DoE doesn't teach students. Nor does it fund teachers Unions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are wasting money that obviously isn't helping students learn.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Common sense.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. So much for pothead's attempt to logic correlation into causality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> American kids don't need education or life preparation. They're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entitled.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only the MAGAs are entitled.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everyone else needs to lower their head, bow, and leave the country.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -hh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The right wants to use taxpayer money for vouchers instead of letting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those mostly already well off families fund their kids' private
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> education themselves.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My red state instituted vouchers last year and they don't even bother
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to track how much income families receiving vouchers have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I don't need any lectures on wasteful education spending from the right.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't see any reason why there should be government owned and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> operated schools. When we provide housing assistance to needy people,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we don't force them to live in government barracks we give them
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Section 8 vouchers and they go find a privately provided residence.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When we give food assistance, we don't force people to shop in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> government commissaries we give them SNAP and EBT cards and they shop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in commercial grocery stores like everyone else. When we provide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assistance for medical care, we don't force people to government
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clinics we give them Medicaid and they go to private providers like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone else.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Schools should be no different.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure privatize everything even schools, then you're accountable to no
>>>>>>>>>>>>> one except the stockholders who are concerned foremost with profits and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> not education.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Private prisons are some of the most mismanaged and violent prisons we have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> According to the leftist loonies, anyway...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> According to just about everyone who doesn't own a private prison:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://time.com/5884104/prison-violence-dont-see/>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.aclu.org/news/smart-justice/private-prisons-are-problem-not-solution>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://eji.org/news/prisoner-abuse-in-private-prison-transport-industry/>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/bja/181249.pdf>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://systemicjustice.org/article/private-contracts-in-public-prisons-how-corporate-power-allows-for-the-exploitation-of-incarcerated-people-and-their-loved-ones/>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.vox.com/2016/8/12/12454410/private-prisons-violence-investigation>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://oig.justice.gov/reports/2016/e1606.pdf>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <chuckle> Leftist sources say...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> George W Bush's DoJ is a "leftist source", now?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Not leftist, but pretty weak kneed...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But keep ignoring the facts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No facts, only opinions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Produce some rebuttals...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rebuttals to opinions? Really?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Before laws protecting workers, before unions, capitalist businesses
>>>>>>> abused, and mistreated workers terribly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why in the world would you think that capitalist prisons wouldn't do so?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/2020/10/how-private-prisons-profit-from-forced-labor>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Those laws apply to private prisons, dumbass.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ummmmm...
>>>>>
>>>>> ...no. They don't.
>>>>>
>>>>> 'The 13th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution abolished slavery, but it
>>>>> included an exception: Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude shall
>>>>> exist, it declares, except as punishment for a crime. Prison rights
>>>>> advocates say this exception allows for forced labor in prisons.'
>>>>>
>>>>> And the actual text:
>>>>>
>>>>> 'Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a
>>>>> punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted,
>>>>> shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their
>>>>> jurisdiction.'
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> <chuckle> Criminals need to be confined where they can't continue to
>>>> prey on the people. Their unhappiness is not my concern.
>>>
>>> So you admit the laws don't apply...
>>
>> I admitted nothing of the sort, Asshat.
>
>Yeah... ...you tacitly did.
>
>>
>>> ...and you just don't care if people are abused and exploited.
>>
>> Criminals do not get abused and exploited beyond their imprisonment.
>So you're admitting the get abused and exploited DURING their
>imprisonment...
Imprisonment is not abuse and exploitation...
>...and you're okay with that.
>
>Got it.
Leftists, unable to get people to agree with them, like to imagine
what other people "admit."
>Do you thing the abuse and exploitation is meted out in accordance with
>the severity of their offence?
There is no abuse and exploitation.
>Do you smoke pot, BTW?
That would be none of your business.