From: NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: LOL... Can't Refute, so just snip it out!
Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2025 10:15:20 -0400
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 15:56:11 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>On 2025-09-05 15:32, AlleyCat wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 12:41:16 -0700, Alan says...
>>
>>>> How are rural WINDMILLS any different from rural oil wells and gas
>>>> wells and cell towers and powerline towers? Funny conservatives
>>>> don't complain about THOSE.
>>>
>>> Why would I care that other people also use the language poorly
>>
>> YOU WERE WRONG.
>>
>> "Windmill" is a perfectly accepted term for them.
>>
>> It's no one fault you're too much an ego-maniacal narcissist to admit it.
>Putting back all the refutations you snippped.
>
> > They each consume 10'000 liters (more than 2600 gallons) of crude
> > oil based lubricants per year.
>No. They don't.
>
>(And I refuted this in detail in another post)
>
Put it right here as that post does not show in my list.
Will you do it?
Of course you won't.
> >
> > When outdated, the wind turbines are being buried deep in forests,
> > out of public view, due to the high costs associated with> recycling
>them.
> >
> > A windmill could spin until it falls apart and it will NEVER, EVER
> > generate as much energy as it was used in building it.
>
>Sorry, but that's just false.
>
>A 2 MW wind turbine generates generates 2 MWh of electricity every hour
>the wind is blowing. It takes about 3,300 - 4,100 MWh of energy to build
>one.
"every hour the wind is blowing". How often does the wind
consistently blow.
>
>So 1,650 - 2,050 hours of wind will pay that off.
Show your work.
>
>A year has 8,766 hours.
Can't address the waste windmills produce I see.
>
> >
> > Wind turbines Don't last forever. The metal towers can be recycled
> > normally, but the blades, a mixture of fiberglass, wood, and
> > plastic, cannot.
>
>Also false.
>
Tell us the what the "truth" is then.
Laughter!
> > In the US, the cheapest option is to send fiberglass blades to
> > landfills, which has caused some controversy. Just
> > one blade is about as long as the wingspan of a large commercial jet
> > like a Boeing 747. And that's just on land. Offshore turbine
> > blades can be twice as long.
>
>And you think they're impossible to cut into pieces?
""The blades are kind of a dud because they have no value," he said.
Decommissioned blades are also notoriously difficult and expensive to
transport. They can be anywhere from 100 to 300 feet long and need to
be cut up onsite before getting trucked away on specialized equipment
which costs money to the landfill.
Once there, Van Vleet said, the size of the blades can put landfills
in a tough spot.
"If you're a small utility or municipality and all of a sudden
hundreds of blades start coming to your landfill, you don't want to
use up your capacity for your local municipal trash for wind turbine
blades," he said, adding that permits for more landfill space add
another layer of expenses."
https://www.npr.org/2019/09/10/759376113/unfurling-the-waste-problem-caused-by-wind-energy