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On 2025-09-05 23:14, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 16:57:40 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2025-09-05 16:51, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 15:54:59 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2025-09-05 15:22, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 15:18:00 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2025-09-05 15:09, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 14:38:15 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-05 14:22, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 13:54:10 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-05 13:47, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 12:35:18 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-05 12:15, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 11:38:38 -0500, super70s
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-05 14:35:20 +0000, Chris Voigtlander said:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/5/2025 7:00 AM, super70s wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-05 12:16:54 +0000, -hh said:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/5/25 00:40, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 4 Sep 2025 08:41:10 -0400, -hh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/3/25 18:38, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-03, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-03 15:07, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-03, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...to we Canadians, anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.tradingplatforms.co.uk/research/the-worlds-smartest-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nations-ranking-intelligence-in-2025/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Canada: 10th.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The US of A: Didn't crack the top 20.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By IQ, Canada was 11th and the US...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...25th.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In fact, there isn't a single metric there that has the US ahead of Canada.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And Florida...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...ranks 13th in IQ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...13th from last.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/average-iq-by-state>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And how much money is the Teacher's Union and DOE getting each year?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obviously they are failing and have been failing for a long time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isn't it great that you know all the answers?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see 2 agencies getting tons of money and I see students who are not learning.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is nothing more to know.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The DoE doesn't teach students.  Nor does it fund teachers Unions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are wasting money that obviously isn't helping students learn.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Common sense.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. So much for pothead's attempt to logic correlation into causality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> American kids don't need education or life preparation.  They're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entitled.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only the MAGAs are entitled.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everyone else needs to lower their head, bow, and leave the country.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -hh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The right wants to use taxpayer money for vouchers instead of letting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those mostly already well off families fund their kids' private
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> education themselves.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My red state instituted vouchers last year and they don't even bother
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to track how much income families receiving vouchers have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I don't need any lectures on wasteful education spending from the right.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't see any reason why there should be government owned and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> operated schools. When we provide housing assistance to needy people,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we don't force them to live in government barracks — we give them
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Section 8 vouchers and they go find a privately provided residence.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When we give food assistance, we don't force people to shop in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> government commissaries — we give them SNAP and EBT cards and they shop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in commercial grocery stores like everyone else. When we provide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assistance for medical care, we don't force people to government
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clinics — we give them Medicaid and they go to private providers like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone else.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Schools should be no different.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure privatize everything even schools, then you're accountable to no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one except the stockholders who are concerned foremost with profits and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not education.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Private prisons are some of the most mismanaged and violent prisons we have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> According to the leftist loonies, anyway...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> According to just about everyone who doesn't own a private prison:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://time.com/5884104/prison-violence-dont-see/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.aclu.org/news/smart-justice/private-prisons-are-problem-not-solution>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://eji.org/news/prisoner-abuse-in-private-prison-transport-industry/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/bja/181249.pdf>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://systemicjustice.org/article/private-contracts-in-public-prisons-how-corporate-power-allows-for-the-exploitation-of-incarcerated-people-and-their-loved-ones/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.vox.com/2016/8/12/12454410/private-prisons-violence-investigation>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://oig.justice.gov/reports/2016/e1606.pdf>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <chuckle> Leftist sources say...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> George W Bush's DoJ is a "leftist source", now?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Not leftist, but pretty weak kneed...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But keep ignoring the facts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No facts, only opinions.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Produce some rebuttals...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rebuttals to opinions?  Really?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Before laws protecting workers, before unions, capitalist businesses
>>>>>>>> abused, and mistreated workers terribly.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why in the world would you think that capitalist prisons wouldn't do so?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/2020/10/how-private-prisons-profit-from-forced-labor>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Those laws apply to private prisons, dumbass.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ummmmm...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...no. They don't.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 'The 13th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution abolished slavery, but it
>>>>>> included an exception: Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude shall
>>>>>> exist, it declares, except as punishment for a crime. Prison rights
>>>>>> advocates say this exception allows for forced labor in prisons.'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And the actual text:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 'Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a
>>>>>> punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted,
>>>>>> shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their
>>>>>> jurisdiction.'
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <chuckle> Criminals need to be confined where they can't continue to
>>>>> prey on the people. Their unhappiness is not my concern.
>>>>
>>>> So you admit the laws don't apply...
>>>
>>> I admitted nothing of the sort, Asshat.
>>
>> Yeah... ...you tacitly did.
>>
>>>
>>>> ...and you just don't care if people are abused and exploited.
>>>
>>> Criminals do not get abused and exploited beyond their imprisonment.
>> So you're admitting the get abused and exploited DURING their
>> imprisonment...
> 
> Imprisonment is not abuse and exploitation...

Imprisonment itself isn't.

But they are being abused and exploited WHILE imprisoned.

> 
>> ...and you're okay with that.
>>
>> Got it.
> 
> Leftists, unable to get people to agree with them, like to imagine
> what other people "admit."

You SAID it: "Their unhappiness is not my concern."

> 
>> Do you thing the abuse and exploitation is meted out in accordance with
>> the severity of their offence?
> 
> There is no abuse and exploitation.

I provided multiple sources that disagree.

What have you provided?

> 
>> Do you smoke pot, BTW?
> 
> That would be none of your business.

So you do...