From: LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.trump,can.politics
Subject: Re: Well this won't come as any shock...
Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2025 17:01:15 -0400
Organization: laughing at far leftists
On Sat, 6 Sep 2025 12:07:12 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>On 2025-09-05 23:14, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 16:57:40 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2025-09-05 16:51, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 15:54:59 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2025-09-05 15:22, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 15:18:00 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2025-09-05 15:09, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 14:38:15 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-05 14:22, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 13:54:10 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-05 13:47, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 12:35:18 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-05 12:15, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 11:38:38 -0500, super70s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-05 14:35:20 +0000, Chris Voigtlander said:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/5/2025 7:00 AM, super70s wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-05 12:16:54 +0000, -hh said:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/5/25 00:40, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 4 Sep 2025 08:41:10 -0400, -hh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/3/25 18:38, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-03, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-03 15:07, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-03, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...to we Canadians, anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.tradingplatforms.co.uk/research/the-worlds-smartest-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nations-ranking-intelligence-in-2025/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Canada: 10th.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The US of A: Didn't crack the top 20.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By IQ, Canada was 11th and the US...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...25th.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In fact, there isn't a single metric there that has the US ahead of Canada.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And Florida...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...ranks 13th in IQ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...13th from last.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/average-iq-by-state>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And how much money is the Teacher's Union and DOE getting each year?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obviously they are failing and have been failing for a long time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isn't it great that you know all the answers?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see 2 agencies getting tons of money and I see students who are not learning.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is nothing more to know.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The DoE doesn't teach students. Nor does it fund teachers Unions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are wasting money that obviously isn't helping students learn.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Common sense.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. So much for pothead's attempt to logic correlation into causality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> American kids don't need education or life preparation. They're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entitled.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only the MAGAs are entitled.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everyone else needs to lower their head, bow, and leave the country.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -hh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The right wants to use taxpayer money for vouchers instead of letting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those mostly already well off families fund their kids' private
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> education themselves.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My red state instituted vouchers last year and they don't even bother
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to track how much income families receiving vouchers have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I don't need any lectures on wasteful education spending from the right.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't see any reason why there should be government owned and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> operated schools. When we provide housing assistance to needy people,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we don't force them to live in government barracks we give them
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Section 8 vouchers and they go find a privately provided residence.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When we give food assistance, we don't force people to shop in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> government commissaries we give them SNAP and EBT cards and they shop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in commercial grocery stores like everyone else. When we provide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assistance for medical care, we don't force people to government
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clinics we give them Medicaid and they go to private providers like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone else.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Schools should be no different.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure privatize everything even schools, then you're accountable to no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one except the stockholders who are concerned foremost with profits and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not education.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Private prisons are some of the most mismanaged and violent prisons we have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> According to the leftist loonies, anyway...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> According to just about everyone who doesn't own a private prison:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://time.com/5884104/prison-violence-dont-see/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.aclu.org/news/smart-justice/private-prisons-are-problem-not-solution>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://eji.org/news/prisoner-abuse-in-private-prison-transport-industry/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/bja/181249.pdf>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://systemicjustice.org/article/private-contracts-in-public-prisons-how-corporate-power-allows-for-the-exploitation-of-incarcerated-people-and-their-loved-ones/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.vox.com/2016/8/12/12454410/private-prisons-violence-investigation>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://oig.justice.gov/reports/2016/e1606.pdf>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <chuckle> Leftist sources say...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> George W Bush's DoJ is a "leftist source", now?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Not leftist, but pretty weak kneed...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But keep ignoring the facts.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No facts, only opinions.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Produce some rebuttals...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rebuttals to opinions? Really?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Before laws protecting workers, before unions, capitalist businesses
>>>>>>>>> abused, and mistreated workers terribly.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why in the world would you think that capitalist prisons wouldn't do so?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/2020/10/how-private-prisons-profit-from-forced-labor>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Those laws apply to private prisons, dumbass.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ummmmm...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...no. They don't.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 'The 13th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution abolished slavery, but it
>>>>>>> included an exception: Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude shall
>>>>>>> exist, it declares, except as punishment for a crime. Prison rights
>>>>>>> advocates say this exception allows for forced labor in prisons.'
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And the actual text:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 'Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a
>>>>>>> punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted,
>>>>>>> shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their
>>>>>>> jurisdiction.'
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <chuckle> Criminals need to be confined where they can't continue to
>>>>>> prey on the people. Their unhappiness is not my concern.
>>>>>
>>>>> So you admit the laws don't apply...
>>>>
>>>> I admitted nothing of the sort, Asshat.
>>>
>>> Yeah... ...you tacitly did.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> ...and you just don't care if people are abused and exploited.
>>>>
>>>> Criminals do not get abused and exploited beyond their imprisonment.
>>> So you're admitting the get abused and exploited DURING their
>>> imprisonment...
>>
>> Imprisonment is not abuse and exploitation...
>
>Imprisonment itself isn't.
>
>But they are being abused and exploited WHILE imprisoned.
I don't believe that.
>>> ...and you're okay with that.
>>>
>>> Got it.
>>
>> Leftists, unable to get people to agree with them, like to imagine
>> what other people "admit."
>
>You SAID it: "Their unhappiness is not my concern."
I stand by that..
>>> Do you thing the abuse and exploitation is meted out in accordance with
>>> the severity of their offence?
>>
>> There is no abuse and exploitation.
>
>I provided multiple sources that disagree.
opinions are not facts....
>What have you provided?
Skepticism. I have lots more...
>>> Do you smoke pot, BTW?
>>
>> That would be none of your business.
>
>So you do...
Leftists, unable to get people to agree with them, like to imagine
what other people do.