From: LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.trump,can.politics
Subject: Re: Well this won't come as any shock...
Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2025 17:49:46 -0400
Organization: laughing at far leftists
On Sat, 6 Sep 2025 14:14:01 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>On 2025-09-06 14:01, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>> On Sat, 6 Sep 2025 12:07:12 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2025-09-05 23:14, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 16:57:40 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2025-09-05 16:51, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 15:54:59 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2025-09-05 15:22, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 15:18:00 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-05 15:09, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 14:38:15 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-05 14:22, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 13:54:10 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-05 13:47, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 12:35:18 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-05 12:15, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 11:38:38 -0500, super70s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-05 14:35:20 +0000, Chris Voigtlander said:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/5/2025 7:00 AM, super70s wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-05 12:16:54 +0000, -hh said:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/5/25 00:40, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 4 Sep 2025 08:41:10 -0400, -hh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/3/25 18:38, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-03, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-03 15:07, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-03, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...to we Canadians, anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.tradingplatforms.co.uk/research/the-worlds-smartest-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nations-ranking-intelligence-in-2025/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Canada: 10th.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The US of A: Didn't crack the top 20.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By IQ, Canada was 11th and the US...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...25th.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In fact, there isn't a single metric there that has the US ahead of Canada.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And Florida...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...ranks 13th in IQ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...13th from last.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/average-iq-by-state>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And how much money is the Teacher's Union and DOE getting each year?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obviously they are failing and have been failing for a long time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isn't it great that you know all the answers?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see 2 agencies getting tons of money and I see students who are not learning.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is nothing more to know.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The DoE doesn't teach students. Nor does it fund teachers Unions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are wasting money that obviously isn't helping students learn.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Common sense.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. So much for pothead's attempt to logic correlation into causality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> American kids don't need education or life preparation. They're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entitled.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only the MAGAs are entitled.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everyone else needs to lower their head, bow, and leave the country.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -hh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The right wants to use taxpayer money for vouchers instead of letting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those mostly already well off families fund their kids' private
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> education themselves.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My red state instituted vouchers last year and they don't even bother
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to track how much income families receiving vouchers have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I don't need any lectures on wasteful education spending from the right.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't see any reason why there should be government owned and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> operated schools. When we provide housing assistance to needy people,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we don't force them to live in government barracks we give them
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Section 8 vouchers and they go find a privately provided residence.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When we give food assistance, we don't force people to shop in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> government commissaries we give them SNAP and EBT cards and they shop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in commercial grocery stores like everyone else. When we provide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assistance for medical care, we don't force people to government
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clinics we give them Medicaid and they go to private providers like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone else.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Schools should be no different.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure privatize everything even schools, then you're accountable to no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one except the stockholders who are concerned foremost with profits and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not education.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Private prisons are some of the most mismanaged and violent prisons we have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> According to the leftist loonies, anyway...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> According to just about everyone who doesn't own a private prison:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://time.com/5884104/prison-violence-dont-see/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.aclu.org/news/smart-justice/private-prisons-are-problem-not-solution>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://eji.org/news/prisoner-abuse-in-private-prison-transport-industry/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/bja/181249.pdf>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://systemicjustice.org/article/private-contracts-in-public-prisons-how-corporate-power-allows-for-the-exploitation-of-incarcerated-people-and-their-loved-ones/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.vox.com/2016/8/12/12454410/private-prisons-violence-investigation>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://oig.justice.gov/reports/2016/e1606.pdf>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <chuckle> Leftist sources say...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> George W Bush's DoJ is a "leftist source", now?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Not leftist, but pretty weak kneed...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But keep ignoring the facts.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> No facts, only opinions.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Produce some rebuttals...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Rebuttals to opinions? Really?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Before laws protecting workers, before unions, capitalist businesses
>>>>>>>>>>> abused, and mistreated workers terribly.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Why in the world would you think that capitalist prisons wouldn't do so?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/2020/10/how-private-prisons-profit-from-forced-labor>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Those laws apply to private prisons, dumbass.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Ummmmm...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ...no. They don't.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 'The 13th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution abolished slavery, but it
>>>>>>>>> included an exception: Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude shall
>>>>>>>>> exist, it declares, except as punishment for a crime. Prison rights
>>>>>>>>> advocates say this exception allows for forced labor in prisons.'
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> And the actual text:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 'Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a
>>>>>>>>> punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted,
>>>>>>>>> shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their
>>>>>>>>> jurisdiction.'
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <chuckle> Criminals need to be confined where they can't continue to
>>>>>>>> prey on the people. Their unhappiness is not my concern.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So you admit the laws don't apply...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I admitted nothing of the sort, Asshat.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah... ...you tacitly did.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...and you just don't care if people are abused and exploited.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Criminals do not get abused and exploited beyond their imprisonment.
>>>>> So you're admitting the get abused and exploited DURING their
>>>>> imprisonment...
>>>>
>>>> Imprisonment is not abuse and exploitation...
>>>
>>> Imprisonment itself isn't.
>>>
>>> But they are being abused and exploited WHILE imprisoned.
>>
>> I don't believe that.
>
>Interesting...
>
>...because earlier you tried to justify it:
Nonsense. Nio justification stated or implied.
>"Their unhappiness is not my concern."
>
>>
>>>>> ...and you're okay with that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Got it.
>>>>
>>>> Leftists, unable to get people to agree with them, like to imagine
>>>> what other people "admit."
>>>
>>> You SAID it: "Their unhappiness is not my concern."
>>
>> I stand by that..
>
>Which is a tacit admission that they ARE being abused and exploited.
Nonsense. I simply suggested that people in prison to be unhappy about
being in prison which is to be expected.
>>>>> Do you thing the abuse and exploitation is meted out in accordance with
>>>>> the severity of their offence?
>>>>
>>>> There is no abuse and exploitation.
>>>
>>> I provided multiple sources that disagree.
>>
>> opinions are not facts....
>>
>>> What have you provided?
>>
>> Skepticism. I have lots more...
>>
>>>>> Do you smoke pot, BTW?
>>>>
>>>> That would be none of your business.
>>>
>>> So you do...
>>
>> Leftists, unable to get people to agree with them, like to imagine
>> what other people do.
>
>Nope. It's not about that at all.
>
Your failures must bother you a lot.