From: LeftistDon'tMatter <IronWhite@SystemicPatriotism.org>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.trump,can.politics
Subject: Re: Well this won't come as any shock...
Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2025 18:33:58 -0400
Organization: laughing at far leftists
On Sat, 6 Sep 2025 14:52:35 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>On 2025-09-06 14:49, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>> On Sat, 6 Sep 2025 14:14:01 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2025-09-06 14:01, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 6 Sep 2025 12:07:12 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2025-09-05 23:14, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 16:57:40 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2025-09-05 16:51, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 15:54:59 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-05 15:22, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 15:18:00 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-05 15:09, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 14:38:15 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-05 14:22, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 13:54:10 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-05 13:47, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 12:35:18 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-05 12:15, LeftistDon'tMatter wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, 5 Sep 2025 11:38:38 -0500, super70s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <super70s@super70s.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-05 14:35:20 +0000, Chris Voigtlander said:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/5/2025 7:00 AM, super70s wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-05 12:16:54 +0000, -hh said:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/5/25 00:40, Governor Swill wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 4 Sep 2025 08:41:10 -0400, -hh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/3/25 18:38, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-03, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-03 15:07, pothead wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-03, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...to we Canadians, anyway.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.tradingplatforms.co.uk/research/the-worlds-smartest-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nations-ranking-intelligence-in-2025/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Canada: 10th.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The US of A: Didn't crack the top 20.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> By IQ, Canada was 11th and the US...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...25th.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In fact, there isn't a single metric there that has the US ahead of Canada.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And Florida...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...ranks 13th in IQ...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ...13th from last.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/average-iq-by-state>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And how much money is the Teacher's Union and DOE getting each year?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obviously they are failing and have been failing for a long time.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Isn't it great that you know all the answers?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I see 2 agencies getting tons of money and I see students who are not learning.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> There is nothing more to know.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The DoE doesn't teach students. Nor does it fund teachers Unions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> We are wasting money that obviously isn't helping students learn.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Common sense.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nope. So much for pothead's attempt to logic correlation into causality.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> American kids don't need education or life preparation. They're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entitled.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Only the MAGAs are entitled.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Everyone else needs to lower their head, bow, and leave the country.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -hh
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The right wants to use taxpayer money for vouchers instead of letting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those mostly already well off families fund their kids' private
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> education themselves.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My red state instituted vouchers last year and they don't even bother
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to track how much income families receiving vouchers have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So I don't need any lectures on wasteful education spending from the right.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't see any reason why there should be government owned and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> operated schools. When we provide housing assistance to needy people,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we don't force them to live in government barracks we give them
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Section 8 vouchers and they go find a privately provided residence.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> When we give food assistance, we don't force people to shop in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> government commissaries we give them SNAP and EBT cards and they shop
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in commercial grocery stores like everyone else. When we provide
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> assistance for medical care, we don't force people to government
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> clinics we give them Medicaid and they go to private providers like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everyone else.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Schools should be no different.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sure privatize everything even schools, then you're accountable to no
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one except the stockholders who are concerned foremost with profits and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not education.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Private prisons are some of the most mismanaged and violent prisons we have.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> According to the leftist loonies, anyway...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> According to just about everyone who doesn't own a private prison:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://time.com/5884104/prison-violence-dont-see/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.aclu.org/news/smart-justice/private-prisons-are-problem-not-solution>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://eji.org/news/prisoner-abuse-in-private-prison-transport-industry/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.ojp.gov/pdffiles1/bja/181249.pdf>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://systemicjustice.org/article/private-contracts-in-public-prisons-how-corporate-power-allows-for-the-exploitation-of-incarcerated-people-and-their-loved-ones/>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.vox.com/2016/8/12/12454410/private-prisons-violence-investigation>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://oig.justice.gov/reports/2016/e1606.pdf>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <chuckle> Leftist sources say...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> George W Bush's DoJ is a "leftist source", now?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Not leftist, but pretty weak kneed...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But keep ignoring the facts.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> No facts, only opinions.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Produce some rebuttals...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rebuttals to opinions? Really?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Before laws protecting workers, before unions, capitalist businesses
>>>>>>>>>>>>> abused, and mistreated workers terribly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why in the world would you think that capitalist prisons wouldn't do so?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/2020/10/how-private-prisons-profit-from-forced-labor>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Those laws apply to private prisons, dumbass.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ummmmm...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ...no. They don't.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 'The 13th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution abolished slavery, but it
>>>>>>>>>>> included an exception: Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude shall
>>>>>>>>>>> exist, it declares, except as punishment for a crime. Prison rights
>>>>>>>>>>> advocates say this exception allows for forced labor in prisons.'
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And the actual text:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 'Section 1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a
>>>>>>>>>>> punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted,
>>>>>>>>>>> shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their
>>>>>>>>>>> jurisdiction.'
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <chuckle> Criminals need to be confined where they can't continue to
>>>>>>>>>> prey on the people. Their unhappiness is not my concern.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So you admit the laws don't apply...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I admitted nothing of the sort, Asshat.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yeah... ...you tacitly did.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ...and you just don't care if people are abused and exploited.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Criminals do not get abused and exploited beyond their imprisonment.
>>>>>>> So you're admitting the get abused and exploited DURING their
>>>>>>> imprisonment...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Imprisonment is not abuse and exploitation...
>>>>>
>>>>> Imprisonment itself isn't.
>>>>>
>>>>> But they are being abused and exploited WHILE imprisoned.
>>>>
>>>> I don't believe that.
>>>
>>> Interesting...
>>>
>>> ...because earlier you tried to justify it:
>>
>> Nonsense. Nio justification stated or implied.
>>
>>> "Their unhappiness is not my concern."
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>>> ...and you're okay with that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Got it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Leftists, unable to get people to agree with them, like to imagine
>>>>>> what other people "admit."
>>>>>
>>>>> You SAID it: "Their unhappiness is not my concern."
>>>>
>>>> I stand by that..
>>>
>>> Which is a tacit admission that they ARE being abused and exploited.
>>
>> Nonsense. I simply suggested that people in prison to be unhappy about
>> being in prison which is to be expected.
>>
>>>>>>> Do you thing the abuse and exploitation is meted out in accordance with
>>>>>>> the severity of their offence?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> There is no abuse and exploitation.
>>>>>
>>>>> I provided multiple sources that disagree.
>>>>
>>>> opinions are not facts....
>>>>
>>>>> What have you provided?
>>>>
>>>> Skepticism. I have lots more...
>>>>
>>>>>>> Do you smoke pot, BTW?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That would be none of your business.
>>>>>
>>>>> So you do...
>>>>
>>>> Leftists, unable to get people to agree with them, like to imagine
>>>> what other people do.
>>>
>>> Nope. It's not about that at all.
>>>
>>
>> Your failures must bother you a lot.
>
>You can't figure it out.
>
>I understand.
You sissified lefty loons are easy to figure out. You fear
independence. You need a nanny government to take if you.