From: AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: LOL... Shit-Talking Cangaydian Doesn't Know The Difference In Being "Liable" and Actually Committing The Crime
Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2025 18:34:36 -0500
Organization: AlleyCat Computing, Inc.
On Tue, 9 Sep 2025 10:26:19 -0700, Alan says...
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> On 2025-09-08 18:00, AlleyCat wrote:
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> > On Mon, 8 Sep 2025 08:15:56 -0700, Rudy Canoza says...
> >
> >> Trump raped Carroll.
> >
> > Nope.
> >
> > They couldn't prove it, because it never happened, and that demented slut Carroll will get nothing.
> A jury made a determination that by the common meaning of the word
> "rape" (not the narrower NY State legal definition) he did.
Nope.
Find us some examples of people being found guilty of "RAPE", but never went to jail.
If "they" found he was guilty of rape, why didn't NY file CRIMINAL charges against him?
How many people you know of that committed actual rape and no arrests were made and no subsequent charges were brought?
Fact Check: Was Donald Trump Found Guilty of Rape?
On Tuesday, May 12,2023, the Manhattan jury of nine men and three women found the former president liable for SEXUALLY ABUSING AND
DEFAMING CARROLL and awarded Carroll $5 million in damages.
However, the lawsuit's conclusion appears to have led some (DUMB ASSES) to believe that Trump has been convicted of rape and used
that understanding to attack him on social media.
The Claim
A Facebook post by historian James Fell, published on May 9,2023, which received 2,700 likes, said: "We all knew Trump is a rapist.
The jury in the E. Jean Carroll civil trial agrees."
The Facts
While E. Jean Carroll's lawsuit was a CIVIL TRIAL, the fact that the jury was asked to consider the evidence as to whether Trump
raped, sexually abused or forcibly touched her might have led some to believe the matter was criminal or otherwise intimated
criminal guilt.
Nnnnnope.
To start, it's useful to know what standard or quality of evidence the jury in this civil lawsuit used to make its judgment. Its
conclusion was based on something called the preponderance of evidence.
So funny... there WAS no evidence. Just a lying little cunt. Funny, how she's the ONLY woman, ever, to accuse Trump of guilt and
have him prosecuted for it.
Trump "needed" to rape women back then, as much as Texas Hill Country needs more rain.
"The preponderance standard could be satisfied if the jury is only 51 PERCENT CONFIDENT that the plaintiff's version of events is
true, whereas in a criminal trial, the jury must have near certainty that the prosecution is correct.
"LIABILITY for sexual assault means that the jury has concluded that the plaintiff has satisfied the preponderance of the evidence
standard and that the defendant must pay damages to compensate the victim. There are no criminal consequences to a finding of
LIABILITY."
If Trump was guilty of rape, New York would have pressed charges, so even THEY knew it wasn't rape.
Pay attention, boy:
The word "LIABILITY" is key. As Notre Dame Law School professor Jay Tidmarsh, an expert in complex civil litigation and civil
procedure, told Newsweek, "civil cases DO NOT SPEAK OF 'GUILT' or 'innocence'" but instead "use the language 'liable' or 'not
liable,'" as reporting of the jury's verdict repeated.
"So it is accurate to say that Donald Trump was liable for battery and defamation, BUT NOT THAT HE WAS FOUND GUILTY OF BATTERY AND
DEFAMATION."
Even Newsweek won't call it rape.
Why do you?
Because, you are NOT a lawyer.
Your TDS is really bad, rich kid.
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"Trump Derangement Syndrome" Is a Real Mental Condition
All you need to know about "Trump Derangement Syndrome," or TDS.
"Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) is a mental condition in which a person has been driven effectively insane due to their dislike
of Donald Trump, to the point at which they will abandon all logic and reason."
Justin Raimondo, the editorial director of Antiwar.com, wrote a piece in the Los Angeles Times in 2016 that broke TDS down into
three distinct phases or stages:
"In the first stage of the disease, victims lose all sense of proportion. The president-elect's every tweet provokes a firestorm,
as if 140 characters were all it took to change the world."
"The mid-level stages of TDS have a profound effect on the victim's vocabulary: Sufferers speak a distinctive language consisting
solely of hyperbole."
"As TDS progresses, the afflicted lose the ability to distinguish fantasy from reality."
The Point here is simple: TDS is, in the eyes of its adherents, the knee-jerk opposition from liberals to anything and everything
Trump does. If Trump announced he was donating every dollar he's ever made, TDS sufferers would suggest he was up to something
nefarious, according to the logic of TDS. There's nothing - not. one. thing. - that Trump could do or say that would be received
positively by TDSers.
The history of Trump Derangement Syndrome actually goes back to the early 2000s - a time when the idea of Trump as president was a
punch line for late-night comics and nothing more.
Wikipedia traces its roots to "Bush Derangement Syndrome" - a term first coined by the late conservative columnist Charles
Krauthammer back in 2003. The condition, as Krauthammer defined it, was "the acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal people in
reaction to the policies, the presidency - nay - the very existence of George W. Bush."