From: NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: LOL... Can't Refute, so just snip it out!
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2025 07:20:51 -0400
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On Tue, 09 Sep 2025 07:23:59 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 8 Sep 2025 11:30:30 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>On 2025-09-07 22:28, AlleyCat wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sun, 7 Sep 2025 16:49:27 -0400, -hh says...
>>>
>>>> "According to a 2017 report by the National Renewable Energy Laboratory
>>>> (NREL), the average payback period for a commercial wind farm in the
>>>> United States is around 7-12 years."
>>>
>>> Is that WITH maintenance AND replacement?
>>
>>"FYI, this isn't the "energy to make" ROI as first discussed in this
>>thread, but the total project's ROI, including operating costs."
>>
>>Are maintenance and replacement NOT operating costs in your world, Loser?
>>
>
>C
>>>
>>> Seems to me, those blades aren't lasting that long and maintenance is digging into "profits", so, I'm pretty sure your "report" is
>>> based on computer models and not REAL life.
>>
>>Seems to you based on what?
>>
>> From the report:
>>
>>'Citations:
>>
>>National Renewable Energy Laboratory (NREL), "Wind Energy Finance in the
>>United States," (2017).
>
>2017?
>
>>
>>Journal of Cleaner Production, "Advances in wind turbine technology: A
>>review," (2019).
>
>2019?
>
>>
>>International Renewable Energy Agency (IRENA), "Renewable Cost
>>Database," (2020).
>
>2020?
>
>>
>>Energy Information Administration (EIA), "Transmission Infrastructure
>>Development," (2018).
>
>2018?
>
>>
>>American Wind Energy Association (AWEA), "Wind Energy Industry Report,"
>>(2016).'
>>
>
>2016?
>
>>So what are you basing your "pretty sure" on: your feelings?
>
>Please supply direct and *current* links to support your nonsense. 8
>year old links mean very little.
>>
>
>>
>>>
>>> What I wanted from rich boy, was REAL life examples of specific and/or particular Windmills that have already made up their cost
>>> and/or will, in a not-so-distant future, instead of what money they're "supposed to" (and not just "on paper"), make.
>>>
>>> Using models is a losing proposition, since we ALL know the history of failures we have seen from modeling.
>>
>>You've yet to show that anyone used models.
>
>
>You'd best support your own claims before whining that someone else
>isn't.
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