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From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: Proof that civil discourse with liberals is no longer possible
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2025 13:14:31 -0700
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider

On 2025-09-11 04:48, NoBody wrote:
> On Wed, 10 Sep 2025 15:49:30 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 2025-09-10 15:22, NoBody wrote:
>>> Charlie Kirk, the conservative activist and founder of Turning Point
>>> USA, is dead after being shot during a campus event at Utah Valley
>>> University Wednesday.
>>>
>>> President Donald Trump confirmed Kirk's death in a post on Truth
>>> Social.
>>>
>>> "The Great, and even Legendary, Charlie Kirk, is dead. No one
>>> understood or had the Heart of the Youth in the United States of
>>> America better than Charlie. He was loved and admired by ALL,
>>> especially me, and now, he is no longer with us," Trump wrote.
>>> "Melania and my Sympathies go out to his beautiful wife Erika, and
>>> family. Charlie, we love you!"
>>>
>>> Kirk died after he was taken to a hospital in critical condition after
>>> being shot Wednesday at a Utah event, a law enforcement official told
>>> The Associated Press.
>>>
>>> Video posted from the event appeared to show Kirk being shot as he
>>> spoke to the crowd from under a white pop-up tent. After the shot, the
>>> crowd dispersed, with onlookers shouting, "Run, run, run!"
>>>
>>> Treanor said the shooting happened at about 12:20 p.m.
>>>
>>> https://www.foxnews.com/us/charlie-kirk-shot-utah-event-hospitalized
>>>
>>
>> Really?
> 
> Really.
> 
>>
>> Is the same true with every shooting committed by a right-winger?
> 
> You would need to draw a proper comparision.

'Right-wing extremists commit most extremist-related murders each year, 
but in 2022 such extremists committed all the murders COE has been able 
to document. The last year this was the case was 2012. White 
supremacists committed 21 of the 25 killings (84%), including five 
committed by members or associates of white supremacist prison gangs 
such as the Universal Aryan Brotherhood, the United Aryan Brotherhood or 
the Nazi Low Riders.'

> 
> What "right winger" murdered a man for speaking peacefully?

Ah! And now you attempt to limit the scope!

But one such attempted shooting (well at least you believe it was 
genuine) was the shot allegedly fired at Trump...

...by a right-wing gunman.

> 
>>
>> We don't even know who Kirk's shooter was.
> .
> And that is very telling that this was well planned and financed.

Yes, but by whom? You simply assume it was left-wing.

> 
> I notice you failed to condemn the killing.  It says a lot about you.

It says more about you that you'd find it surprising that someone 
doesn't feel an explicit need to state that he condemns ALL murders.