From: NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: Proof that civil discourse with liberals is no longer possible
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2025 09:19:40 -0400
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On Thu, 11 Sep 2025 13:14:31 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>On 2025-09-11 04:48, NoBody wrote:
>> On Wed, 10 Sep 2025 15:49:30 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2025-09-10 15:22, NoBody wrote:
>>>> Charlie Kirk, the conservative activist and founder of Turning Point
>>>> USA, is dead after being shot during a campus event at Utah Valley
>>>> University Wednesday.
>>>>
>>>> President Donald Trump confirmed Kirk's death in a post on Truth
>>>> Social.
>>>>
>>>> "The Great, and even Legendary, Charlie Kirk, is dead. No one
>>>> understood or had the Heart of the Youth in the United States of
>>>> America better than Charlie. He was loved and admired by ALL,
>>>> especially me, and now, he is no longer with us," Trump wrote.
>>>> "Melania and my Sympathies go out to his beautiful wife Erika, and
>>>> family. Charlie, we love you!"
>>>>
>>>> Kirk died after he was taken to a hospital in critical condition after
>>>> being shot Wednesday at a Utah event, a law enforcement official told
>>>> The Associated Press.
>>>>
>>>> Video posted from the event appeared to show Kirk being shot as he
>>>> spoke to the crowd from under a white pop-up tent. After the shot, the
>>>> crowd dispersed, with onlookers shouting, "Run, run, run!"
>>>>
>>>> Treanor said the shooting happened at about 12:20 p.m.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.foxnews.com/us/charlie-kirk-shot-utah-event-hospitalized
>>>>
>>>
>>> Really?
>>
>> Really.
>>
>>>
>>> Is the same true with every shooting committed by a right-winger?
>>
>> You would need to draw a proper comparision.
>
>'Right-wing extremists commit most extremist-related murders each year,
>but in 2022 such extremists committed all the murders COE has been able
>to document. The last year this was the case was 2012. White
>supremacists committed 21 of the 25 killings (84%), including five
>committed by members or associates of white supremacist prison gangs
>such as the Universal Aryan Brotherhood, the United Aryan Brotherhood or
>the Nazi Low Riders.'
Interesting that you place these outside groups as "right-wing".
They are not.
>
>>
>> What "right winger" murdered a man for speaking peacefully?
>
>Ah! And now you attempt to limit the scope!
Laughter!
>
>But one such attempted shooting (well at least you believe it was
>genuine) was the shot allegedly fired at Trump...
>
>...by a right-wing gunman.
>
Cite your claim. It is an absolute lie.
>>
>>>
>>> We don't even know who Kirk's shooter was.
>> .
>> And that is very telling that this was well planned and financed.
>
>Yes, but by whom? You simply assume it was left-wing.
Oh, the messages enscribed on the bullets made it quite clear.
Duh.
>
>>
>> I notice you failed to condemn the killing. It says a lot about you.
>
>It says more about you that you'd find it surprising that someone
>doesn't feel an explicit need to state that he condemns ALL murders.
Evasion noted.
Where is your condemnation for the murder of Charlie Kirk?