From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: Proof that civil discourse with liberals is no longer possible
Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2025 13:03:52 -0700
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On 2025-09-13 06:19, NoBody wrote:
> On Thu, 11 Sep 2025 13:14:31 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2025-09-11 04:48, NoBody wrote:
>>> On Wed, 10 Sep 2025 15:49:30 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2025-09-10 15:22, NoBody wrote:
>>>>> Charlie Kirk, the conservative activist and founder of Turning Point
>>>>> USA, is dead after being shot during a campus event at Utah Valley
>>>>> University Wednesday.
>>>>>
>>>>> President Donald Trump confirmed Kirk's death in a post on Truth
>>>>> Social.
>>>>>
>>>>> "The Great, and even Legendary, Charlie Kirk, is dead. No one
>>>>> understood or had the Heart of the Youth in the United States of
>>>>> America better than Charlie. He was loved and admired by ALL,
>>>>> especially me, and now, he is no longer with us," Trump wrote.
>>>>> "Melania and my Sympathies go out to his beautiful wife Erika, and
>>>>> family. Charlie, we love you!"
>>>>>
>>>>> Kirk died after he was taken to a hospital in critical condition after
>>>>> being shot Wednesday at a Utah event, a law enforcement official told
>>>>> The Associated Press.
>>>>>
>>>>> Video posted from the event appeared to show Kirk being shot as he
>>>>> spoke to the crowd from under a white pop-up tent. After the shot, the
>>>>> crowd dispersed, with onlookers shouting, "Run, run, run!"
>>>>>
>>>>> Treanor said the shooting happened at about 12:20 p.m.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.foxnews.com/us/charlie-kirk-shot-utah-event-hospitalized
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Really?
>>>
>>> Really.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Is the same true with every shooting committed by a right-winger?
>>>
>>> You would need to draw a proper comparision.
>>
>> 'Right-wing extremists commit most extremist-related murders each year,
>> but in 2022 such extremists committed all the murders COE has been able
>> to document. The last year this was the case was 2012. White
>> supremacists committed 21 of the 25 killings (84%), including five
>> committed by members or associates of white supremacist prison gangs
>> such as the Universal Aryan Brotherhood, the United Aryan Brotherhood or
>> the Nazi Low Riders.'
>
> Interesting that you place these outside groups as "right-wing".
>
> They are not.
Really? Who did they vote for do you figure?
>
>>
>>>
>>> What "right winger" murdered a man for speaking peacefully?
>>
>> Ah! And now you attempt to limit the scope!
>
> Laughter!
>
>>
>> But one such attempted shooting (well at least you believe it was
>> genuine) was the shot allegedly fired at Trump...
>>
>> ...by a right-wing gunman.
>>
>
> Cite your claim. It is an absolute lie.
'State voter records show that Crooks was a registered Republican. The
upcoming Nov. 5 election would have been the first time he was old
enough to vote in a presidential race.'
<https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-shooter-1.7263201>
>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> We don't even know who Kirk's shooter was.
>>> .
>>> And that is very telling that this was well planned and financed.
>>
>> Yes, but by whom? You simply assume it was left-wing.
>
> Oh, the messages enscribed on the bullets made it quite clear.
> Duh.
Nope.
>
>>
>>>
>>> I notice you failed to condemn the killing. It says a lot about you.
>>
>> It says more about you that you'd find it surprising that someone
>> doesn't feel an explicit need to state that he condemns ALL murders.
>
> Evasion noted.
Your evasion of my point noted.
>
>
> Where is your condemnation for the murder of Charlie Kirk?
I condemn ALL murders.