From: NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: Proof that civil discourse with liberals is no longer possible
Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2025 09:28:58 -0400
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 13:03:52 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>On 2025-09-13 06:19, NoBody wrote:
>> On Thu, 11 Sep 2025 13:14:31 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2025-09-11 04:48, NoBody wrote:
>>>> On Wed, 10 Sep 2025 15:49:30 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2025-09-10 15:22, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>> Charlie Kirk, the conservative activist and founder of Turning Point
>>>>>> USA, is dead after being shot during a campus event at Utah Valley
>>>>>> University Wednesday.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> President Donald Trump confirmed Kirk's death in a post on Truth
>>>>>> Social.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "The Great, and even Legendary, Charlie Kirk, is dead. No one
>>>>>> understood or had the Heart of the Youth in the United States of
>>>>>> America better than Charlie. He was loved and admired by ALL,
>>>>>> especially me, and now, he is no longer with us," Trump wrote.
>>>>>> "Melania and my Sympathies go out to his beautiful wife Erika, and
>>>>>> family. Charlie, we love you!"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kirk died after he was taken to a hospital in critical condition after
>>>>>> being shot Wednesday at a Utah event, a law enforcement official told
>>>>>> The Associated Press.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Video posted from the event appeared to show Kirk being shot as he
>>>>>> spoke to the crowd from under a white pop-up tent. After the shot, the
>>>>>> crowd dispersed, with onlookers shouting, "Run, run, run!"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Treanor said the shooting happened at about 12:20 p.m.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://www.foxnews.com/us/charlie-kirk-shot-utah-event-hospitalized
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Really?
>>>>
>>>> Really.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Is the same true with every shooting committed by a right-winger?
>>>>
>>>> You would need to draw a proper comparision.
>>>
>>> 'Right-wing extremists commit most extremist-related murders each year,
>>> but in 2022 such extremists committed all the murders COE has been able
>>> to document. The last year this was the case was 2012. White
>>> supremacists committed 21 of the 25 killings (84%), including five
>>> committed by members or associates of white supremacist prison gangs
>>> such as the Universal Aryan Brotherhood, the United Aryan Brotherhood or
>>> the Nazi Low Riders.'
>>
>> Interesting that you place these outside groups as "right-wing".
>>
>> They are not.
>
>Really? Who did they vote for do you figure?
Don't know and don't care.
Now address what I said.
>
>
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>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> What "right winger" murdered a man for speaking peacefully?
>>>
>>> Ah! And now you attempt to limit the scope!
>>
>> Laughter!
>>
>>>
>>> But one such attempted shooting (well at least you believe it was
>>> genuine) was the shot allegedly fired at Trump...
>>>
>>> ...by a right-wing gunman.
>>>
>>
>> Cite your claim. It is an absolute lie.
>
>'State voter records show that Crooks was a registered Republican. The
>upcoming Nov. 5 election would have been the first time he was old
>enough to vote in a presidential race.'
>
><https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-shooter-1.7263201>
Since when is a declared party for someone who hasn't voted in any
election an indication of one's beliefs? I remember a very long time
ago when I first registered, I actually registered as a Democrat.
Never have voted for a Democrat and never will. Does that mean I'm a
screaming leftist?
Do "far right" people donate to Democrats?
"After the FBI identified the gunman who shot at former President
Donald Trump as Thomas Matthew Crooks of Bethel Park, Pennsylvania,
CBS News and other outlets reviewed public records that verified that
he was a registered Republican who had previously donated $15 to a
Democratic organization via ActBlue. "
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-shooter-thomas-crooks-donation-to-democrats-registered-republican/
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>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We don't even know who Kirk's shooter was.
>>>> .
>>>> And that is very telling that this was well planned and financed.
>>>
>>> Yes, but by whom? You simply assume it was left-wing.
>>
>> Oh, the messages enscribed on the bullets made it quite clear.
>> Duh.
>
>Nope.
Laughter! Of course they do.
>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I notice you failed to condemn the killing. It says a lot about you.
>>>
>>> It says more about you that you'd find it surprising that someone
>>> doesn't feel an explicit need to state that he condemns ALL murders.
>>
>> Evasion noted.
>
>Your evasion of my point noted.
Evasion still noted. Nice try dude. You're not squirming out of
this.
>
>>
>>
>> Where is your condemnation for the murder of Charlie Kirk?
>
>I condemn ALL murders.
>
Nice try.
Where's you condemnation of the murder of Charlie Kirk?
Can't bring yourself to type it can you?
All we need to know.