From: Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: Proof that civil discourse with liberals is no longer possible
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2025 10:26:11 -0700
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On 2025-09-14 06:28, NoBody wrote:
> On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 13:03:52 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>> On 2025-09-13 06:19, NoBody wrote:
>>> On Thu, 11 Sep 2025 13:14:31 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 2025-09-11 04:48, NoBody wrote:
>>>>> On Wed, 10 Sep 2025 15:49:30 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2025-09-10 15:22, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>> Charlie Kirk, the conservative activist and founder of Turning Point
>>>>>>> USA, is dead after being shot during a campus event at Utah Valley
>>>>>>> University Wednesday.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> President Donald Trump confirmed Kirk's death in a post on Truth
>>>>>>> Social.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "The Great, and even Legendary, Charlie Kirk, is dead. No one
>>>>>>> understood or had the Heart of the Youth in the United States of
>>>>>>> America better than Charlie. He was loved and admired by ALL,
>>>>>>> especially me, and now, he is no longer with us," Trump wrote.
>>>>>>> "Melania and my Sympathies go out to his beautiful wife Erika, and
>>>>>>> family. Charlie, we love you!"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kirk died after he was taken to a hospital in critical condition after
>>>>>>> being shot Wednesday at a Utah event, a law enforcement official told
>>>>>>> The Associated Press.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Video posted from the event appeared to show Kirk being shot as he
>>>>>>> spoke to the crowd from under a white pop-up tent. After the shot, the
>>>>>>> crowd dispersed, with onlookers shouting, "Run, run, run!"
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Treanor said the shooting happened at about 12:20 p.m.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.foxnews.com/us/charlie-kirk-shot-utah-event-hospitalized
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Really?
>>>>>
>>>>> Really.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is the same true with every shooting committed by a right-winger?
>>>>>
>>>>> You would need to draw a proper comparision.
>>>>
>>>> 'Right-wing extremists commit most extremist-related murders each year,
>>>> but in 2022 such extremists committed all the murders COE has been able
>>>> to document. The last year this was the case was 2012. White
>>>> supremacists committed 21 of the 25 killings (84%), including five
>>>> committed by members or associates of white supremacist prison gangs
>>>> such as the Universal Aryan Brotherhood, the United Aryan Brotherhood or
>>>> the Nazi Low Riders.'
>>>
>>> Interesting that you place these outside groups as "right-wing".
>>>
>>> They are not.
>>
>> Really? Who did they vote for do you figure?
>
> Don't know and don't care.
> Now address what I said.
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> What "right winger" murdered a man for speaking peacefully?
>>>>
>>>> Ah! And now you attempt to limit the scope!
>>>
>>> Laughter!
>>>
>>>>
>>>> But one such attempted shooting (well at least you believe it was
>>>> genuine) was the shot allegedly fired at Trump...
>>>>
>>>> ...by a right-wing gunman.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Cite your claim. It is an absolute lie.
>>
>> 'State voter records show that Crooks was a registered Republican. The
>> upcoming Nov. 5 election would have been the first time he was old
>> enough to vote in a presidential race.'
>>
>> <https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-shooter-1.7263201>
>
> Since when is a declared party for someone who hasn't voted in any
> election an indication of one's beliefs? I remember a very long time
> ago when I first registered, I actually registered as a Democrat.
> Never have voted for a Democrat and never will. Does that mean I'm a
> screaming leftist?
>
> Do "far right" people donate to Democrats?
>
> "After the FBI identified the gunman who shot at former President
> Donald Trump as Thomas Matthew Crooks of Bethel Park, Pennsylvania,
> CBS News and other outlets reviewed public records that verified that
> he was a registered Republican who had previously donated $15 to a
> Democratic organization via ActBlue. "
>
> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-shooter-thomas-crooks-donation-to-democrats-registered-republican/
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We don't even know who Kirk's shooter was.
>>>>> .
>>>>> And that is very telling that this was well planned and financed.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, but by whom? You simply assume it was left-wing.
>>>
>>> Oh, the messages enscribed on the bullets made it quite clear.
>>> Duh.
>>
>> Nope.
>
> Laughter! Of course they do.
Apparently not to you...
...because they point to his connections to the "groyper" movement of
Nick Fuentes.
>
>
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I notice you failed to condemn the killing. It says a lot about you.
>>>>
>>>> It says more about you that you'd find it surprising that someone
>>>> doesn't feel an explicit need to state that he condemns ALL murders.
>>>
>>> Evasion noted.
>>
>> Your evasion of my point noted.
>
> Evasion still noted. Nice try dude. You're not squirming out of
> this.
>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Where is your condemnation for the murder of Charlie Kirk?
>>
>> I condemn ALL murders.
>>
>
> Nice try.
>
> Where's you condemnation of the murder of Charlie Kirk?
>
> Can't bring yourself to type it can you?
>
> All we need to know.
Where are you condemnations of the murders of Melissa Hortman and her
husband Mark?