From: Dhu on Gate <campbell@neotext.ca>
Newsgroups: can.politics,alt.politics
Subject: Re: The New York Times gets caught lying again.
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 2025 09:22:57 -0000 (UTC)
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On Mon, 15 Sep 2025 17:15:04 -0700, Alan wrote:
> On 2025-09-14 07:02, NoBody wrote:
>> On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 11:40:32 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2025-09-13 11:08, NoBody wrote:
>>>> It appears the NYT doesn't bother to check anything when reporting
>>>> something bad about conservatives. Yet another reason why they have
>>>> no credibility.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "The New York Times issued a correction on Thursday after falsely
>>>> accusing Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk of making an
>>>> antisemitic claim on his podcast.
>>>>
>>>> The Times falsely accused Kirk of stating on his podcast in 2023 that
>>>> Jewish communities are âpushing the exact kind of hatred against
>>>> whitesâ that they want people to stop using against them. However,
>>>> Kirk cited a tweet making that claim and critiqued it, causing the
>>>> Timesâ correction to be made.
>>>>
>>>> âAn earlier version of this article described incorrectly an
>>>> antisemitic statement that Charlie Kirk had made on an episode of his
>>>> podcast. He was quoting a statement from a post on social media and
>>>> went on to critique it. It was not his own statement,â the correction
>>>> reads."
>>>>
>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/nyt-forced-to-issue-correction-after-making-egregiously-false-claim-about-charlie-kirk/ar-AA1MqyGK?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=990fb4814c4d42fcb82897d9c4ee173f&ei=71
>>>>
>>>> Garbage in garbage out.
>>>
>>> Ummmm....wrong.
>>>
>>> He may have started out by reading someone else's tweet, but he went on
>>> to say.
>>>
>>> This is from a transcript of Kirk's podcast from November 16, 2023:
>>>
>>> 'But the first part is absolutely true. Let's go to this. Jewish
>>> communities have been pushing the exact kind of hatred against whites
>>> that they claim to want people to stop using against them. '
>>>
>>> <https://www.mediamatters.org/charlie-kirk/charlie-kirk-defends-elon-musks-antisemitism-some-largest-financiers-left-wing-anti>
>>>
>>
>> So now you're saying that the New York Times lied about lying?
>
> Nope. I'm saying they got a fact wrong and admitted it.
>
>>
>>
>>> So while the original words may have been from someone else, he states
>>> that they are "absolutely true".
>>
>> Interesting that you don't include clarifying context in your quote:
>>
>> "Now I don't like generalizations. Not every Jewish person believes
>> that. But it is true, the Anti-Defamation League was part and parcel
>> with Black Lives Matter. It is true that some of the largest
>> financiers of left-wing anti-white causes have been Jewish Americans.
>>
>> They went all in on woke, and it wasn't just ADL. It was some of the
>> top Jewish organizations in the country that have done that. In fact,
>> we have seen this with the recent retreat of Jewish donations that are
>> no longer, going to be administered to colleges. Right? Marc Rowan,
>> Leon Cooperman. Can we get that full list? It's very powerful. "
>>
>>
>> That is not "antisemetic". It is accurate.
>
> He basically agreed with the sentiment.
>
>>
>>
>> Where is your condemnation of Charlie Kirk's murder?
>
> Where is yours of ANY Democrat who has been attacked or murdered in the
> last 25 years?
Moi? Pick a number cretin.
Dhu
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