From: NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: Proof that civil discourse with liberals is no longer possible
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2025 06:40:49 -0400
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On Tue, 16 Sep 2025 08:48:54 -0700, c186282 <c186282@nnada.net> wrote:
>On 9/16/2025 3:58 AM, NoBody wrote:
>> On Mon, 15 Sep 2025 10:26:11 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2025-09-14 06:28, NoBody wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 13:03:52 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2025-09-13 06:19, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 11 Sep 2025 13:14:31 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2025-09-11 04:48, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wed, 10 Sep 2025 15:49:30 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-10 15:22, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Charlie Kirk, the conservative activist and founder of Turning Point
>>>>>>>>>> USA, is dead after being shot during a campus event at Utah Valley
>>>>>>>>>> University Wednesday.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> President Donald Trump confirmed Kirk's death in a post on Truth
>>>>>>>>>> Social.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "The Great, and even Legendary, Charlie Kirk, is dead. No one
>>>>>>>>>> understood or had the Heart of the Youth in the United States of
>>>>>>>>>> America better than Charlie. He was loved and admired by ALL,
>>>>>>>>>> especially me, and now, he is no longer with us," Trump wrote.
>>>>>>>>>> "Melania and my Sympathies go out to his beautiful wife Erika, and
>>>>>>>>>> family. Charlie, we love you!"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Kirk died after he was taken to a hospital in critical condition after
>>>>>>>>>> being shot Wednesday at a Utah event, a law enforcement official told
>>>>>>>>>> The Associated Press.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Video posted from the event appeared to show Kirk being shot as he
>>>>>>>>>> spoke to the crowd from under a white pop-up tent. After the shot, the
>>>>>>>>>> crowd dispersed, with onlookers shouting, "Run, run, run!"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Treanor said the shooting happened at about 12:20 p.m.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://www.foxnews.com/us/charlie-kirk-shot-utah-event-hospitalized
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Really?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Really.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is the same true with every shooting committed by a right-winger?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You would need to draw a proper comparision.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 'Right-wing extremists commit most extremist-related murders each year,
>>>>>>> but in 2022 such extremists committed all the murders COE has been able
>>>>>>> to document. The last year this was the case was 2012. White
>>>>>>> supremacists committed 21 of the 25 killings (84%), including five
>>>>>>> committed by members or associates of white supremacist prison gangs
>>>>>>> such as the Universal Aryan Brotherhood, the United Aryan Brotherhood or
>>>>>>> the Nazi Low Riders.'
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Interesting that you place these outside groups as "right-wing".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> They are not.
>>>>>
>>>>> Really? Who did they vote for do you figure?
>>>>
>>>> Don't know and don't care.
>>>> Now address what I said.
>>
>> Silence.
>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What "right winger" murdered a man for speaking peacefully?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ah! And now you attempt to limit the scope!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Laughter!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But one such attempted shooting (well at least you believe it was
>>>>>>> genuine) was the shot allegedly fired at Trump...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ...by a right-wing gunman.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cite your claim. It is an absolute lie.
>>>>>
>>>>> 'State voter records show that Crooks was a registered Republican. The
>>>>> upcoming Nov. 5 election would have been the first time he was old
>>>>> enough to vote in a presidential race.'
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-shooter-1.7263201>
>>>>
>>>> Since when is a declared party for someone who hasn't voted in any
>>>> election an indication of one's beliefs? I remember a very long time
>>>> ago when I first registered, I actually registered as a Democrat.
>>>> Never have voted for a Democrat and never will. Does that mean I'm a
>>>> screaming leftist?
>>>>
>>>> Do "far right" people donate to Democrats?
>>
>> Silence.
>>
>>>>
>>>> "After the FBI identified the gunman who shot at former President
>>>> Donald Trump as Thomas Matthew Crooks of Bethel Park, Pennsylvania,
>>>> CBS News and other outlets reviewed public records that verified that
>>>> he was a registered Republican who had previously donated $15 to a
>>>> Democratic organization via ActBlue. "
>>>>
>>>> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-shooter-thomas-crooks-donation-to-democrats-registered-republican/
>>>>
>>
>> Silence.
>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We don't even know who Kirk's shooter was.
>>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>> And that is very telling that this was well planned and financed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, but by whom? You simply assume it was left-wing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, the messages enscribed on the bullets made it quite clear.
>>>>>> Duh.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nope.
>>>>
>>>> Laughter! Of course they do.
>>>
>>> Apparently not to you...
>>>
>>> ...because they point to his connections to the "groyper" movement of
>>> Nick Fuentes.
>>
>> LAUGHTER!
>>
>> He's a gay man who lived with a transgender boyfriend.
>> Not exactly "right wing".
>>
>> Even you don't believe what you type.
>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I notice you failed to condemn the killing. It says a lot about you.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It says more about you that you'd find it surprising that someone
>>>>>>> doesn't feel an explicit need to state that he condemns ALL murders.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Evasion noted.
>>>>>
>>>>> Your evasion of my point noted.
>>>>
>>>> Evasion still noted. Nice try dude. You're not squirming out of
>>>> this.
>>
>> Well???
>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Where is your condemnation for the murder of Charlie Kirk?
>>>>>
>>>>> I condemn ALL murders.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Nice try.
>>
>> Silence.
>>
>>>>
>>>> Where's you condemnation of the murder of Charlie Kirk?
>>>>
>>>> Can't bring yourself to type it can you?
>>>>
>>>> All we need to know.
>>>
>>> Where are you condemnations of the murders of Melissa Hortman and her
>>> husband Mark?
>>
>> Fairly certain I did so at the time but I will say so clearly (just
>> for your hypocritical self)
>>
>> I condemn the murders and murderer of the Hortmans.
>>
>> Your turn about Charlie Kirk. I doubt you'll do it.
>>
>>
>> Have you condemned the Charlie Kirk murder yet?
>
>He will, right after you condemn the Melissa Hortman murder.
That has already been done by myself.
What's your next excuse for him?