Davin News Server

From: NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: Proof that civil discourse with liberals is no longer possible
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2025 06:41:22 -0400
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider

On Tue, 16 Sep 2025 06:58:52 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 15 Sep 2025 10:26:11 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>
>>On 2025-09-14 06:28, NoBody wrote:
>>> On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 13:03:52 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 2025-09-13 06:19, NoBody wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 11 Sep 2025 13:14:31 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2025-09-11 04:48, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>> On Wed, 10 Sep 2025 15:49:30 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2025-09-10 15:22, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Charlie Kirk, the conservative activist and founder of Turning Point
>>>>>>>>> USA, is dead after being shot during a campus event at Utah Valley
>>>>>>>>> University Wednesday.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> President Donald Trump confirmed Kirk's death in a post on Truth
>>>>>>>>> Social.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> "The Great, and even Legendary, Charlie Kirk, is dead. No one
>>>>>>>>> understood or had the Heart of the Youth in the United States of
>>>>>>>>> America better than Charlie. He was loved and admired by ALL,
>>>>>>>>> especially me, and now, he is no longer with us," Trump wrote.
>>>>>>>>> "Melania and my Sympathies go out to his beautiful wife Erika, and
>>>>>>>>> family. Charlie, we love you!"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Kirk died after he was taken to a hospital in critical condition after
>>>>>>>>> being shot Wednesday at a Utah event, a law enforcement official told
>>>>>>>>> The Associated Press.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Video posted from the event appeared to show Kirk being shot as he
>>>>>>>>> spoke to the crowd from under a white pop-up tent. After the shot, the
>>>>>>>>> crowd dispersed, with onlookers shouting, "Run, run, run!"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Treanor said the shooting happened at about 12:20 p.m.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://www.foxnews.com/us/charlie-kirk-shot-utah-event-hospitalized
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Really?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Really.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is the same true with every shooting committed by a right-winger?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You would need to draw a proper comparision.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 'Right-wing extremists commit most extremist-related murders each year,
>>>>>> but in 2022 such extremists committed all the murders COE has been able
>>>>>> to document. The last year this was the case was 2012. White
>>>>>> supremacists committed 21 of the 25 killings (84%), including five
>>>>>> committed by members or associates of white supremacist prison gangs
>>>>>> such as the Universal Aryan Brotherhood, the United Aryan Brotherhood or
>>>>>> the Nazi Low Riders.'
>>>>>
>>>>> Interesting that you place these outside groups as "right-wing".
>>>>>
>>>>> They are not.
>>>>
>>>> Really? Who did they vote for do you figure?
>>> 
>>> Don't know and don't care.
>>> Now address what I said.
>
>Silence.
>
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What "right winger" murdered a man for speaking peacefully?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ah! And now you attempt to limit the scope!
>>>>>
>>>>> Laughter!
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But one such attempted shooting (well at least you believe it was
>>>>>> genuine) was the shot allegedly fired at Trump...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ...by a right-wing gunman.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cite your claim.  It is an absolute lie.
>>>>
>>>> 'State voter records show that Crooks was a registered Republican. The
>>>> upcoming Nov. 5 election would have been the first time he was old
>>>> enough to vote in a presidential race.'
>>>>
>>>> <https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-shooter-1.7263201>
>>> 
>>> Since when is a declared party for someone who hasn't voted in any
>>> election an indication of one's beliefs?  I remember a very long time
>>> ago when I first registered,  I actually registered as a Democrat.
>>> Never have voted for a Democrat and never will.  Does that mean I'm a
>>> screaming leftist?
>>> 
>>> Do "far right" people donate to Democrats?
>
>Silence.
>
>>> 
>>> "After the FBI identified the gunman who shot at former President
>>> Donald Trump as Thomas Matthew Crooks of Bethel Park, Pennsylvania,
>>> CBS News and other outlets reviewed public records that verified that
>>> he was a registered Republican who had previously donated $15 to a
>>> Democratic organization via ActBlue. "
>>> 
>>> https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-shooter-thomas-crooks-donation-to-democrats-registered-republican/
>>> 
>
>Silence.
>
>>> 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We don't even know who Kirk's shooter was.
>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>> And that is very telling that this was well planned and financed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, but by whom? You simply assume it was left-wing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, the messages enscribed on the bullets made it quite clear.
>>>>> Duh.
>>>>
>>>> Nope.
>>> 
>>> Laughter!  Of course they do.
>>
>>Apparently not to you...
>>
>>...because they point to his connections to the "groyper" movement of 
>>Nick Fuentes.
>
>LAUGHTER!
>
>He's a gay man who lived with a transgender boyfriend.
>Not exactly "right wing".
>
>Even you don't believe what you type.
>
>>
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I notice you failed to condemn the killing.  It says a lot about you.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It says more about you that you'd find it surprising that someone
>>>>>> doesn't feel an explicit need to state that he condemns ALL murders.
>>>>>
>>>>> Evasion noted.
>>>>
>>>> Your evasion of my point noted.
>>> 
>>> Evasion still noted.   Nice try dude.  You're not squirming out of
>>> this.
>
>Well???
>
>>> 
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Where is your condemnation for the murder of Charlie Kirk?
>>>>
>>>> I condemn ALL murders.
>>>>
>>> 
>>> Nice try.
>
>Silence.
>
>>> 
>>> Where's you condemnation of the murder of Charlie Kirk?
>>> 
>>> Can't bring yourself to type it can you?
>>> 
>>> All we need to know.
>>
>>Where are you condemnations of the murders of Melissa Hortman and her 
>>husband Mark?
>
>Fairly certain I did so at the time but I will say so clearly (just
>for your hypocritical self)
>
>I condemn the murders and murderer of the Hortmans.
>
>Your turn about Charlie Kirk.  I doubt you'll do it.
>
>
>Have you condemned the Charlie Kirk murder yet?
>>

And Alan has run away like the coward he is.