From: NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: The New York Times gets caught lying again.
Date: Wed, 17 Sep 2025 06:51:21 -0400
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On Tue, 16 Sep 2025 10:52:06 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>On 2025-09-16 04:13, NoBody wrote:
>> On Mon, 15 Sep 2025 10:58:01 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2025-09-15 04:16, NoBody wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 14 Sep 2025 10:02:47 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, 13 Sep 2025 11:40:32 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2025-09-13 11:08, NoBody wrote:
>>>>>>> It appears the NYT doesn't bother to check anything when reporting
>>>>>>> something bad about conservatives. Yet another reason why they have
>>>>>>> no credibility.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "The New York Times issued a correction on Thursday after falsely
>>>>>>> accusing Turning Point USA founder Charlie Kirk of making an
>>>>>>> antisemitic claim on his podcast.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Times falsely accused Kirk of stating on his podcast in 2023 that
>>>>>>> Jewish communities are pushing the exact kind of hatred against
>>>>>>> whites that they want people to stop using against them. However,
>>>>>>> Kirk cited a tweet making that claim and critiqued it, causing the
>>>>>>> Times correction to be made.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> An earlier version of this article described incorrectly an
>>>>>>> antisemitic statement that Charlie Kirk had made on an episode of his
>>>>>>> podcast. He was quoting a statement from a post on social media and
>>>>>>> went on to critique it. It was not his own statement, the correction
>>>>>>> reads."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/opinion/nyt-forced-to-issue-correction-after-making-egregiously-false-claim-about-charlie-kirk/ar-AA1MqyGK?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=990fb4814c4d42fcb82897d9c4ee173f&ei=71
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Garbage in garbage out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ummmm....wrong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He may have started out by reading someone else's tweet, but he went on
>>>>>> to say.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is from a transcript of Kirk's podcast from November 16, 2023:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 'But the first part is absolutely true. Let's go to this. Jewish
>>>>>> communities have been pushing the exact kind of hatred against whites
>>>>>> that they claim to want people to stop using against them. '
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <https://www.mediamatters.org/charlie-kirk/charlie-kirk-defends-elon-musks-antisemitism-some-largest-financiers-left-wing-anti>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So now you're saying that the New York Times lied about lying?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> So while the original words may have been from someone else, he states
>>>>>> that they are "absolutely true".
>>>>>
>>>>> Interesting that you don't include clarifying context in your quote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Now I don't like generalizations. Not every Jewish person believes
>>>>> that. But it is true, the Anti-Defamation League was part and parcel
>>>>> with Black Lives Matter. It is true that some of the largest
>>>>> financiers of left-wing anti-white causes have been Jewish Americans.
>>>>>
>>>>> They went all in on woke, and it wasn't just ADL. It was some of the
>>>>> top Jewish organizations in the country that have done that. In fact,
>>>>> we have seen this with the recent retreat of Jewish donations that are
>>>>> no longer, going to be administered to colleges. Right? Marc Rowan,
>>>>> Leon Cooperman. Can we get that full list? It's very powerful. "
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That is not "antisemetic". It is accurate.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Where is your condemnation of Charlie Kirk's murder?
>>>>
>>>> <crickets.wav>
>>>
>>> Where is your condemnation of Democrats killed or attacked?
>>
>> I've already done so.
>> Your turn.
>
>Quotes and citations, please.
Certainly since you ran from that thread as well:
From the thread
Re: Proof that civil discourse with liberals is no longer possible
On Tue, 16 Sep 2025 06:58:52 -0400, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>On Mon, 15 Sep 2025 10:26:11 -0700, Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote:
>>>Where are you condemnations of the murders of Melissa Hortman and her
>>husband Mark?
>
>Fairly certain I did so at the time but I will say so clearly (just
>for your hypocritical self)
>
>I condemn the murders and murderer of the Hortmans.
>
>Your turn about Charlie Kirk. I doubt you'll do it.
>
>
>It's what you demand of me, right?
>
I don't mind living by my own standards.
Your turn.
Where's your condemnation of Charlie Kirk's murder?