From: Auric Hellman <adhellman1@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: misc.news.internet.discuss,can.politics,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Is Civil War Really Coming to Britain?
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2025 00:30:04 -0400
Organization: www.aaup.org
Complexity is one of those things frequently evoked but seldom
understood or explained. Let us take the much-hyped narrative of an
impending civil war in Britain, which has been pushed relentlessly by
the center-right press in both Britain and America, following dire
warnings from Professor David Betz about a coming clash between UKâs
Muslim left and the white far-right. Several things can all be true at once:
First, the British ruling class has done a woeful job governing the
country. Decades of awful decisions have added up, damaging social
cohesion and severing the moral unity between rulers and ruled.
Second, Prime Minister Keir Starmer is a power-hungry politician who
would deliberately inflame tensions in order to justify harsher
crackdowns and to impose an AI-driven digital ID system, further
tightening Britainâs already draconian regulation of speech and social
media.
Third, various clandestine foreign forcesâAmerican, Israeli, Russian,
Iranian, and even Chineseâmay seek to foment chaos and exacerbate the
civil war narrative for their own ends.
Fourth, social media, eager to generate clicks with new swill dumped
into the pig slop trough, has a vested interest in pushing
sensationalist headlines.
Finally, most Brits are still watching soccer, eating takeaway, and
binge-watching Netflixânot plotting insurrection. By historical âbread
and circusesâ standards, Britain still has a surfeit of both.
I remain skeptical about the prospect of widespread civil conflict in
Britain. Such conflicts require tightly organized minorities, funding,
stocks of arms and munitions, and explicit aims, causes, and demands.
Professor Betz frequently cites âThe Troublesâ in Northern Ireland as a
precedent for what is about to befall Britain, but virtually none of
those conditions prevail here. Quite apart from the fever dreams of
Daily Mail columnists, the Muslim communities in Britain are mostly led
by moderate, regime-compliant types who are part of the Labour Party
machine, not militant jihadis. To the extent they are organized, it is
to harvest ballots with a shamelessness that would make even Joe Biden
wince.
âThe right,â meanwhile, is scarcely organized at all, for fear of the
law. Itâs almost illegal to be right-wing in Britain, let alone to be
right-wing and organized. Nearly all such attempts are subject to
infiltration or intervention by the security state, whose vigilance on
this score hysterically puts right-wing groups on par with the
aforementioned militant jihadis. So, the notion that these two
tribesâboth proscribed as terrorists by the British stateâare about to
go to war seems like fantasy.
On one side, we have Muslim communities that literally canât figure out
how to organize rubbish disposal. On the other, we have âthe right,â
whose best organizer is the anti-Islam activist Tommy Robinson, who is
about to lead a large âfree speech rallyâ in London, even as Reform UK
Leader Nigel Farage disavows him (perhaps wisely). These groups and
their rallies are crawling with law enforcement. The most organized
minority is still the government, which can play divide and conquer all
day long and win 10 times out of 10.
For the past decade, the beanie-hatted YouTuber Tim Pool has been
declaring an impending civil war in America. That civil war never came.
Undeterred, Pool now welcomes British guests to his studio to hype civil
war in Britain. You can decide if this is analysis, or slop designed to
maximize view counts. When I said Trumpâs re-election would face little
resistance, I was angrily called names by confident political pundits
who predicted mass riots by the left. Those riots never came, either.
Political theories that rely on spontaneous mass action as part of their
logic seldom see it materialize. The idea of bottom-up, grassroots
change is a comforting fiction that avoids confronting more troubling
truths, such as the fact that the BLM and Antifa riots during 2020âs
Summer of George Floyd were top-down, state-backed, and media-backed,
not a spontaneous mass movement. Antifa and BLM were stormtroopers of
the regimeâcounterrevolutionary forces, not revolutionary ones. The
truth is that it was ever thus, as demonstrated by recent revelations
about U.S. federal agencies backing left-wing activism domestically and
abroad.
When the peasants actually do revolt without state or media backing, as
we saw during the COVID lockdowns, the truncheons and nightsticks tend
to come out. In the history of peasant revolts since 209 B.C., only six
out of out of 143 documented cases were successful; 131 were utterly
crushed by the authorities.
This is not to say that the UK is a well-governed country. It is not.
But it takes a lot for âthe people to rise up,â especially when they are
well-fed and entertained. In America, the white populationâs post-1965
demographic decline to just under 58 percent has spurred many claims of
impending civil war, such as Thomas Chittumâs 1996 book Civil War II:
The Coming Breakup of America. The people did not rise up then, and
Donald Trumpâs re-election has put the right back to sleep. According to
MAGA cheerleaders, âAmerica is saved.â
In Britain, the white demographic decline is just beginning, and is
fashionable to say it is a powder keg waiting to explode. But nothing
happens spontaneously; civil war requires concerted organization and
leadership. Little will result from Britainâs current unrest other than
the election of Nigel Farage, but his function, too, will be to put
people back to sleep. By the time they wake up again, the damage will
already be done.â
https://chroniclesmagazine.org/columns/riding-the-tiger/is-civil-war-really-coming-to-britain/
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