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From: Auric Hellman <adhellman1@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: misc.news.internet.discuss,can.politics,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Is Civil War Really Coming to Britain?
Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2025 00:30:04 -0400
Organization: www.aaup.org

Complexity is one of those things frequently evoked but seldom 
understood or explained. Let us take the much-hyped narrative of an 
impending civil war in Britain, which has been pushed relentlessly by 
the center-right press in both Britain and America, following dire 
warnings from Professor David Betz about a coming clash between UK’s 
Muslim left and the white far-right. Several things can all be true at once:

First, the British ruling class has done a woeful job governing the 
country. Decades of awful decisions have added up, damaging social 
cohesion and severing the moral unity between rulers and ruled.

Second, Prime Minister Keir Starmer is a power-hungry politician who 
would deliberately inflame tensions in order to justify harsher 
crackdowns and to impose an AI-driven digital ID system, further 
tightening Britain’s already draconian regulation of speech and social 
media.

Third, various clandestine foreign forces—American, Israeli, Russian, 
Iranian, and even Chinese—may seek to foment chaos and exacerbate the 
civil war narrative for their own ends.

Fourth, social media, eager to generate clicks with new swill dumped 
into the pig slop trough, has a vested interest in pushing 
sensationalist headlines.
Finally, most Brits are still watching soccer, eating takeaway, and 
binge-watching Netflix—not plotting insurrection. By historical “bread 
and circuses” standards, Britain still has a surfeit of both.

I remain skeptical about the prospect of widespread civil conflict in 
Britain. Such conflicts require tightly organized minorities, funding, 
stocks of arms and munitions, and explicit aims, causes, and demands. 
Professor Betz frequently cites “The Troubles” in Northern Ireland as a 
precedent for what is about to befall Britain, but virtually none of 
those conditions prevail here. Quite apart from the fever dreams of 
Daily Mail columnists, the Muslim communities in Britain are mostly led 
by moderate, regime-compliant types who are part of the Labour Party 
machine, not militant jihadis. To the extent they are organized, it is 
to harvest ballots with a shamelessness that would make even Joe Biden 
wince.

“The right,” meanwhile, is scarcely organized at all, for fear of the 
law. It’s almost illegal to be right-wing in Britain, let alone to be 
right-wing and organized. Nearly all such attempts are subject to 
infiltration or intervention by the security state, whose vigilance on 
this score hysterically puts right-wing groups on par with the 
aforementioned militant jihadis. So, the notion that these two 
tribes—both proscribed as terrorists by the British state—are about to 
go to war seems like fantasy.

On one side, we have Muslim communities that literally can’t figure out 
how to organize rubbish disposal. On the other, we have “the right,” 
whose best organizer is the anti-Islam activist Tommy Robinson, who is 
about to lead a large “free speech rally” in London, even as Reform UK 
Leader Nigel Farage disavows him (perhaps wisely). These groups and 
their rallies are crawling with law enforcement. The most organized 
minority is still the government, which can play divide and conquer all 
day long and win 10 times out of 10.

For the past decade, the beanie-hatted YouTuber Tim Pool has been 
declaring an impending civil war in America. That civil war never came. 
Undeterred, Pool now welcomes British guests to his studio to hype civil 
war in Britain. You can decide if this is analysis, or slop designed to 
maximize view counts. When I said Trump’s re-election would face little 
resistance, I was angrily called names by confident political pundits 
who predicted mass riots by the left. Those riots never came, either.

Political theories that rely on spontaneous mass action as part of their 
logic seldom see it materialize. The idea of bottom-up, grassroots 
change is a comforting fiction that avoids confronting more troubling 
truths, such as the fact that the BLM and Antifa riots during 2020’s 
Summer of George Floyd were top-down, state-backed, and media-backed, 
not a spontaneous mass movement. Antifa and BLM were stormtroopers of 
the regime—counterrevolutionary forces, not revolutionary ones. The 
truth is that it was ever thus, as demonstrated by recent revelations 
about U.S. federal agencies backing left-wing activism domestically and 
abroad.

When the peasants actually do revolt without state or media backing, as 
we saw during the COVID lockdowns, the truncheons and nightsticks tend 
to come out. In the history of peasant revolts since 209 B.C., only six 
out of out of 143 documented cases were successful; 131 were utterly 
crushed by the authorities.

This is not to say that the UK is a well-governed country. It is not. 
But it takes a lot for “the people to rise up,” especially when they are 
well-fed and entertained. In America, the white population’s post-1965 
demographic decline to just under 58 percent has spurred many claims of 
impending civil war, such as Thomas Chittum’s 1996 book Civil War II: 
The Coming Breakup of America. The people did not rise up then, and 
Donald Trump’s re-election has put the right back to sleep. According to 
MAGA cheerleaders, “America is saved.”

In Britain, the white demographic decline is just beginning, and is 
fashionable to say it is a powder keg waiting to explode. But nothing 
happens spontaneously; civil war requires concerted organization and 
leadership. Little will result from Britain’s current unrest other than 
the election of Nigel Farage, but his function, too, will be to put 
people back to sleep. By the time they wake up again, the damage will 
already be done.◆

https://chroniclesmagazine.org/columns/riding-the-tiger/is-civil-war-really-coming-to-britain/


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