From: AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: How many times have i told you idiots...
Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2025 22:23:53 -0500
Organization: AlleyCat Computing, Inc.
... that warming comes first and is driving CO2 to rise?
Climate change is a fact, and I want to be on record. I want to say it is a
fact. It's constantly changing. And Earth IS warming, and if we weren't, I
would be concerned because the warming is cyclic, and if we weren't warming
now, I wonder why we're not warming now.
CO2 levels right now are about 418, 420 parts per million. Which is higher
than it's been in 10 years, 20 years, 50 years. That's true. Is it dangerously
high? No. And as a geologist, here's why I can say that. When we go look at
the geologic record, there are times we've had CO2 levels have been 1000 parts
per million, 2000 parts per million.
And Earth was lush, Earth was green, some of the most abundant times for life
during the Jurassic period, uh, Cretaceous, uh, during, during these periods.
And what's interesting is you can have very high carbon dioxide levels
historically and the temperatures are low, and vice versa.
You can have high temperatures and the CO2 is low, and then one of the kickers
is from the Vostok ice cores. People may not be familiar with this. Every year
there's a new layer of ice that is laid down in Greenland and Antarctica, and
in that layer of ice is captured little air bubbles of the atmosphere.
And particles of pollen and particles of volcanic dust, and we can tell from
that layer what the temperatures have been, what the magnetic strength of the
earth has been, how strong the sun has been, I mean, all this stuff, it's a
mind blower, I'm just amazed.
So they drilled in Vostok, Antarctica, and they ended up going back 420,000
years of layers of ice, continuous layers. And the real scientists know what
I'm going to say, the real geologists that are not politicized and are not
beholden to Academic or corporate interests that are paying their paychecks.
One of the problems is in those ice cores, the temperature actually rises
before the CO2 levels. If the CO2 is causing that rise, that's a problem,
because you would expect the CO2 to rise first and then the temperature, and
that's not what the ice cores, and I do have a slide of that if he wants to
bring that up.
So it suggests that something else is happening. So what you're seeing is the
red is temperature, blue. Yeah, and you can see that the the red, if you're
coming from the past to the present, the red is rising first and then the blue
follows. So the temperatures are rising first and then the carbon dioxide is
rising.
Now there's a reason for that. And a lot of people don't like this. What's
driving climate change is under our feet. Humans are not causing it. Alright,
I know that's a big statement, and it's different than what a lot of people
have heard, and I'm going to acknowledge that, NASA said, I've got a slide
showing that, NASA's showing 90% of the CO2 in the atmosphere, Joe, is coming
from the outgassing of the oceans, alright.
We know from high school science that cold water holds more gas. The oceans
are warming, and that's a fact. And as they warm, they're releasing that CO2
into the atmosphere. The kicker is they're warming from underneath, not from
top.
So they're not, you don't think they're warming from whatever we're doing to
the atmosphere.
No.
https://video.twimg.com/amplify_video/1980199673001394176/vid/avc1/854x480/Hat
vVxUaJznaXn1w.mp4
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