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From: -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.trump,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: When Gay Ass Liberals Want To Refute, But Have Nothing But An Idiotic Analogy About Shooting At the Moon
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2025 09:04:26 +0200
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider

AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Oct 2025 19:42:37 +0200,  -hh says...  
>> 
>> You’ve already failed twice on your pedantic rocket science attempt, 
> 
> I didn't "fail" shit.

Denial ain’t just a river in Egypt.

> Firstly faggot... the topic is not "rocket science".
> 
> Secondly, I was being facetious because of YOUR pedantic non-sequitur and 
> reduction ad absurdum. 

Incorrect.  As I’ve already stated:  “It came from real world experience,
and was a solution to quickly shut down stupid Hegseth-esque bubbas who
make stupid demands, to try to be less stupidly unreasonable.”

> You're just another pansy-ass pussy nerd who feels the need to show how much 
> you know, by going completely off-topic and saying something as stupid as 
> "Case in point, we also have a direct line of sight to the moon, and it is 
> well out of anyone's firing range."
> 
> WHO thinks the moon can be shot?

Some DoD soldiers.  Usually low ranked ones like Hegseth (barely) was. 
Thus, my comment that you snipped to avoid:

“Nope. It came from real world experience, and was a solution to quickly
shut down stupid Hegseth-esque bubbas who make stupid demands, to try to be
less stupidly unreasonable.”

> What was your point? That, just because something's in line of sight, it 
> doesn't automatically means the chance of success is 100%?

As was already said:  “…stupid Hegseth-esque bubbas…”, who say they want a
weapon which can hit anything that they can see.  

> Of course not, but it WAS within rifle range.
> 
> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G3unkyFWsAAtSAb?format=jpg&name=large
> 
> 607 yards.

Oh, so now it’s 600yds instead of 200yds?
Amazing how the yardstick is changing.

> WELL within range, even for an amateur shooter and a non-sniper rifle. 

Only if the target is the broad side of a barn.  And even then, most
shooters won’t have the notebook, so they will need several warmers to walk
it on.

> And it doesn't look like a tree fort.

It’s far closer to tree forts than a hide.

> Watch this. I'm going to stay ON topic, unlike you.
> 
> The effective range of a .30-06 Springfield is typically around 460 meters 
> (503 yards) for accurate shooting, …

Of which “607 yards” exceeds, which means this isn’t really a viable plan. 


Especially for your so-called “amateur shooter and a non-sniper rifle.” 
What’s the longest range you’ve personally shot at scored targets with only
iron sights? And whose ‘hold’ method were you using?

>  …while its maximum range can reach up to 3,200 meters (3,500 yards) 
> under optimal conditions. 

Keywords here are “can” and “under optimal”.  I’ve personally conducted max
range testing at YPG for validating range safety fans on 7.62 X 54, and to
give you an idea of how imprecise it is at those distances, rounds could
only hit our 100m x 100m impact target roughly half the time.

> This makes it suitable for hunting medium to large game at significant distances.

And the wiggle here is what constitutes “significant”.  A quick Reddit
search on hunting groups says about the same 400m max:

<https://www.reddit.com/r/Hunting/comments/op0u7r/whats_the_max_range_you_would_take_a_shot_at_an/>


> And if the assassin had access to military grade sniper rifles?
> 
> https://247wallst.com/investing/2023/08/15/the-16-sniper-rifles-used-by-the-us-military/

And?  Maybe you’re finally getting slightly closer to figuring out my free
clue…

> 700 to 2000 yards.

Maximums, because military tactical engagements have far lower consequences
for misses.  For example, the M82 was originally fielded for EOD for hazard
clearance.  If one misses the UXO, it’s not going to run away or shoot
back, so you can take your time and shoot again.  

Likewise, the longest confirmed kill record had been held for ~30 years by
CH, using a scoped M2 HMG: shot approx. 2,500 yds, a record which stood for
~30 years (until Iran/Iraq), and was of a mere bicycle messenger, not a
well protected high value target wearing body armor that will stop .30 cal.

But these days, there’s better tools to employ, which are NLOS, which is
what precludes this SS treehouse find that’s 600+yds distant from being a
pro.

-hh