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From: Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.guns,can.politics,or.politics,aus.politics,sac.politics
Subject: Re: "We Cannot Live With These People"
Date: Thu, 06 Nov 2025 16:54:42 +1100

On Thu, 6 Nov 2025 05:11:15 -0000 (UTC), Webbster
<bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com> wrote:

>Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote in 
>news:i0ongkho0q02k84jisitjb9qe5mv29f9hl@4ax.com:
>
>> On Wed, 05 Nov 2025 14:25:44 -0800, "chine.bleu"
>> <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>>>> Webbster wrote this post by blinking in Morse code:
>>>>
>>>>> "max headroom" <maximusheadroom@gmx.com> wrote in
>>>>> news:10efvhj$hnp7$3@dont-email.me:
>>>>>
>>>>> <snip>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chuckie Schumer is responsible for cutting off SNAP.
>>>>
>>>> Nope. Trump had to be ordered by the courts to use the contingency
>>>> funds for SNAP. And he's still balking about it.
>>>>
>>>>>> Oh, the irony! Project much?
>>>>>>
>>>>> How did the elections go for you last night?
>>>>
>>>> Ask Trump why they went the way they did.
>>>>
>>>>      “TRUMP WASN’T ON THE BALLOT, AND SHUTDOWN, WERE THE TWO
>>>>      REASONS THAT REPUBLICANS LOST ELECTIONS TONIGHT,”
>>>>
>>>> People know that the Democrats won't yield to slashing the ACA,
>>>> and that the Republicans are holding SNAP hostage.
>>>>
>>>> In other words, "TRUMP" *was* on the ballot. He *wants* a
>>>> shutdown, and the people know it.
>>>>
>>>
>>>What kind of losers need healthcare *and* food?
>>>
>> Those that don't wan't to work, want everyone working to pay for it.
>
>Red States take more SNAP and ACA subsidies than Blue.
>
<https://acasignups.net/25/10/29/red-vs-blue-whos-about-be-screwed-most-snap-benefits-ending>
 blue states tend to have more SNAP recipients relative to population,
while red states have a higher proportion of residents relying on ACA
subsidies. Both programs affect people across the political spectrum,
but their impact and distribution vary by state and district political
alignment.

Thus, the statement is correct if qualified: red states take more ACA
subsidies, but blue states take more SNAP benefits per capita.?

>> A major part of the Democrat voting Bloc along with no voter ID
>> <https://ibb.co/Q34dQsm7>
>> 
>> iIn those blue states the elections are rigged. They have no Voter
>> ID…they have mail-in ballots without any Voter ID required…
>
>For Mail-in, you absolutely need ID to Register.  The ballot is mailed to 
>the person registered - no one else.  You have to sign the ballot 
>envelope - which is then matched against your Registration signiture. 
>That method is good enough for banks.
>

The assertion that blue states generally do not have good or strict
voter ID laws is largely accurate.
https://ibb.co/Q34dQsm7 
US States political map

<https://votingrightslab.org/report/2025-legislative-sessions-to-date-key-election-policy-trends/>
     https://tinyurl.com/yf8xrt97
Currently, 36 states require some form of voter ID at the polls, but
among these, blue-leaning states tend to have less strict laws or
allow broader options for acceptable ID. For example, many blue states
do not require photo ID or allow alternatives such as utility bills,
student IDs, or other non-photo documents. Some blue states, including
California, New York, and others, do not require any ID at the ballot
box for in-person voting, although they may require ID at registration
or allow voters to be vouched for by another vote


<https://www.perplexity.ai/search/while-about-one-fifth-of-all-u-5c39c0ItRLqkNpseiUzApQ#0>
     https://tinyurl.com/bp99m6xz
While about one-fifth of all U.S. workers are employed in government
roles and a substantial fraction of the electorate depends on some
form of government assistance, the overall percentage of the U.S.
electorate directly reliant on government income is likely between
20-30%. 
This forms a crucial voting bloc, especially for Democrats, who work
to maintain this support base despite concerns about economic
productivity. 
That's why the Democrats wanted to reduce Productive Tax payers
(Private enterprise)
To Non-Productive  tax payers,
NGO's, welfare, government departments
The problem with Unproductive tax payers, is that governments
eventually run out of Productive taxpayers money
In summary:
About 20% of workers are employed by government at some level.?
Around 30–35% of the electorate likely draws direct income from
government sources.?
This forms a core voting bloc, crucial for Democrats, while
conservatives view it as a challenge to economic productivity and tax
sustainability
-- 
Petzl