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Subject: Re: Hegseth/Trump Do NOT Apologize For Whacking Narcos
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2025 15:15:02 -0600
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On Thu, 04 Dec 2025 02:40:36 +0000,  Mitchell Holman says...  

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> > How much evidence did Obama
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>     "But....but.....Obama!"
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>     And you accuse others of changing the subject.....

If you're going to criticize Trump for doing something that MANY of your 
Democrat Presidents have done, which CAN be argued were illegal, but didn't 
piss, moan or cry about it, like you do with Trump, we're going to do the same 
thing with Clinton, Obama and Biden.

They are still relevant to your whine, since you did NONE while they were 
doing "illegal" things.

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During his presidency, Barack Obama expanded the use of drone strikes, which 
resulted in civilian casualties, including women and children. This 
controversial aspect of his administration drew significant criticism, 
especially given that he was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize shortly after 
taking office.

Overview of Obama's Drone Strikes and CIVILIAN CASUALTIES

During Barack Obama's presidency, the use of drone strikes significantly. This 
approach has drawn considerable criticism, particularly regarding CIVILIAN 
CASUALTIES, including women and children.

CIVILIAN CASUALTIES from Drone Strikes

Total Strikes: Obama authorized approximately 542 drone strikes.

Estimated Deaths: These strikes resulted in an estimated 3,797 deaths, 
including around 324 CIVILIANS.

Notable Incidents:

A drone strike in Yemen killed 16-year-old Abdulrahman al-Awlaki, an American 
citizen, who was not the intended target.

Reports indicate that many strikes have hit civilian gatherings, such as 
weddings, resulting in numerous deaths among women and children.

Context of the Nobel Peace Prize

Obama was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 2009, shortly after taking office, 
for his efforts in international diplomacy.

(uhhh... WHAT "efforts"?)

However, the expansion of the drone program during his presidency has led to a 
complex legacy, with critics labeling him as a "CHILD KILLER" due to the high 
number of CIVILIAN CASUALTIES associated with his drone strikes.

The juxtaposition of receiving a peace prize while overseeing a controversial 
military strategy has sparked ongoing debates about the ethical implications 
of drone warfare and its impact on civilian populations.

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"Trump Derangement Syndrome" Is a Real Mental Condition

All you need to know about "Trump Derangement Syndrome," or TDS.

"Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) is a mental condition in which a person has 
been driven effectively insane due to their dislike of Donald Trump, to the 
point at which they will abandon all logic and reason."

Justin Raimondo, the editorial director of Antiwar.com, wrote a piece in the 
Los Angeles Times in 2016 that broke TDS down into three distinct phases or 
stages:

"In the first stage of the disease, victims lose all sense of proportion. The 
president-elect's every tweet provokes a firestorm, as if 140 characters were 
all it took to change the world."

"The mid-level stages of TDS have a profound effect on the victim's 
vocabulary: Sufferers speak a distinctive language consisting solely of 
hyperbole."

"As TDS progresses, the afflicted lose the ability to distinguish fantasy from 
reality."

The Point here is simple: TDS is, in the eyes of its adherents, the knee-jerk 
opposition from liberals to anything and everything Trump does. If Trump 
announced he was donating every dollar he's ever made, TDS sufferers would 
suggest he was up to something nefarious, according to the logic of TDS. 
There's nothing - not. one. thing. - that Trump could do or say that would be 
received positively by TDSers.

The history of Trump Derangement Syndrome actually goes back to the early 
2000s - a time when the idea of Trump as president was a punch line for late-
night comics and nothing more.

Wikipedia traces its roots to "Bush Derangement Syndrome" - a term first 
coined by the late conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer back in 2003. 
The condition, as Krauthammer defined it, was "the acute onset of paranoia in 
otherwise normal people in reaction to the policies, the presidency - nay - 
the very existence of George W. Bush."