From: Dhu on Gate <campbell@neotext.ca>
Newsgroups: or.politics,seattle.politics,can.politics
Subject: Re: Canada's socialized health care
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2025 23:08:51 -0000 (UTC)
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
On Wed, 3 Dec 2025 12:17:27 -0700, lomonosov wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Dec 2025 10:59:38 -0800
> a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Ryan Williams Bay of Quinte
>> onSseopdtr4c
>> ·
>> ð¨ð¦ Canadaâs Wait-Time Crisis Compared to the World
>> here are the wait times:
>>
>> ð¨ð¦ Canada
>> ⢠MRI: 80â90 days average
>> ⢠CT: 60â70 days
>> ⢠Surgery: 30 weeks median wait
>> ⢠Deaths while waiting: 23,746
>> ðµð± Poland
>> ⢠MRI: 7â14 days (private pathway)
>> ⢠CT: Same week with private option
>> ⢠Surgeries: Weeks, not months
>> ⢠Deaths while waiting: tiny fraction of Canada
>> ðºð¸ United States
>> ⢠MRI: 24â48 hours (insured)
>> ⢠CT: Same day
>> ⢠Surgeries: Days or weeks
>> ⢠Deaths while waiting: not tracked⦠because wait-lists are rare
>> ð¬ð§ United Kingdom (NHS)
>> ⢠MRI: 25â35 days
>> ⢠CT: 1â3 weeks
>> ⢠Surgeries: long waits, but far fewer die waiting
>> ⢠Deaths while waiting: â310
>> Now the real problemâ¦
>> ⸻
>> ð¨ð¦ 23,746 Canadians died waiting for surgery or scans last year
>> This is not normal.
>> This is not happening anywhere else in the developed world.
>> And itâs getting worse.
>> ⸻
>> ð¨ð¦ Canada
>> 23,746 deaths while on wait-lists (2024â25).
>> Months for MRIs. Months for CTs. Months for surgery.
>> The longest waits in the developed world⦠and the highest death toll
>> from delays.
>> ⸻
>> ðµð± Poland
>> Public system with a legal private optionâ¦
>> ⢠MRI in 7â14 days
>> ⢠Surgeries in weeks, not half-a-year
>> No national crisis of patients dying waiting for care.
>> Poland proves that choice shortens waits.
>> ⸻
>> ðºð¸ United States
>> The US issues are about cost â not speed.
>> Urgent care is immediate. Elective surgery is fast.
>> They donât track âdied waiting for surgeryâ because wait-lists almost
>> never exist.
>> ⸻
>> ð¬ð§ United Kingdom (NHS)
>> Even a struggling NHS reports â310 deaths linked to delayed major
>> surgery. Canada: 23,746.
>> The gap is staggering.
>> ⸻
>> ð The truth
>> Canada now has:
>> ⢠the slowest system,
>> ⢠the longest waits, and
>> ⢠the highest number of deaths from delayed care in the developed
>> world.
>
> + 1
>
> FYI
Both China and Russia have better health care and education today
than anything America has had. Rich Chinese don't have to swim
in a sea of illiterate, sickly, commons to enjoy Civilization.
Human Progress is an ongoing process.
Dhu
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