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From: Dhu on Gate <campbell@neotext.ca>
Newsgroups: or.politics,seattle.politics,can.politics
Subject: Re: Canada's socialized health care
Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2025 23:08:51 -0000 (UTC)
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider

On Wed, 3 Dec 2025 12:17:27 -0700, lomonosov wrote:

> On Wed, 3 Dec 2025 10:59:38 -0800
> a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Ryan Williams Bay of Quinte
>> onSseopdtr4c
>>   ·
>> 🇨🇦 Canada’s Wait-Time Crisis Compared to the World
>> here are the wait times:
>> 
>> 🇨🇦 Canada
>> • MRI: 80–90 days average
>> • CT: 60–70 days
>> • Surgery: 30 weeks median wait
>> • Deaths while waiting: 23,746
>> 🇵🇱 Poland
>> • MRI: 7–14 days (private pathway)
>> • CT: Same week with private option
>> • Surgeries: Weeks, not months
>> • Deaths while waiting: tiny fraction of Canada
>> 🇺🇸 United States
>> • MRI: 24–48 hours (insured)
>> • CT: Same day
>> • Surgeries: Days or weeks
>> • Deaths while waiting: not tracked… because wait-lists are rare
>> 🇬🇧 United Kingdom (NHS)
>> • MRI: 25–35 days
>> • CT: 1–3 weeks
>> • Surgeries: long waits, but far fewer die waiting
>> • Deaths while waiting: ≈310
>> Now the real problem…
>> ⸻
>> 🇨🇦 23,746 Canadians died waiting for surgery or scans last year
>> This is not normal.
>> This is not happening anywhere else in the developed world.
>> And it’s getting worse.
>> ⸻
>> 🇨🇦 Canada
>> 23,746 deaths while on wait-lists (2024–25).
>> Months for MRIs. Months for CTs. Months for surgery.
>> The longest waits in the developed world… and the highest death toll 
>> from delays.
>> ⸻
>> 🇵🇱 Poland
>> Public system with a legal private option…
>> • MRI in 7–14 days
>> • Surgeries in weeks, not half-a-year
>> No national crisis of patients dying waiting for care.
>> Poland proves that choice shortens waits.
>> ⸻
>> 🇺🇸 United States
>> The US issues are about cost — not speed.
>> Urgent care is immediate. Elective surgery is fast.
>> They don’t track “died waiting for surgery” because wait-lists almost 
>> never exist.
>> ⸻
>> 🇬🇧 United Kingdom (NHS)
>> Even a struggling NHS reports ≈310 deaths linked to delayed major
>> surgery. Canada: 23,746.
>> The gap is staggering.
>> ⸻
>> 📌 The truth
>> Canada now has:
>> • the slowest system,
>> • the longest waits, and
>> • the highest number of deaths from delayed care in the developed
>> world.
> 
> + 1
> 
> FYI

Both China and Russia have better health care and education today 
than anything America has had.  Rich Chinese don't have to swim 
in a sea of illiterate, sickly, commons to enjoy Civilization.

Human Progress is an ongoing process.

Dhu

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