From: Webbster <bax02_spamblock@baxcode.com>
Newsgroups: can.politics
Subject: Re: Canada's socialized health care
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2025 05:16:32 -0000 (UTC)
Organization: A noiseless patient Spider
Dhu on Gate <campbell@neotext.ca> wrote in
news:10gt4a2$3dd90$4@dont-email.me:
> On Wed, 3 Dec 2025 12:17:27 -0700, lomonosov wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 3 Dec 2025 10:59:38 -0800
>> a425couple <a425couple@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Ryan Williams Bay of Quinte
>>> onSseopdtr4c
>>> ·
>>> ð¨ð¦ Canadaâs Wait-Time Crisis Compared to the World
>>> here are the wait times:
>>>
>>> ð¨ð¦ Canada
>>> ⢠MRI: 80â90 days average
>>> ⢠CT: 60â70 days
>>> ⢠Surgery: 30 weeks median wait
>>> ⢠Deaths while waiting: 23,746
>>> ðµð± Poland
>>> ⢠MRI: 7â14 days (private pathway)
>>> ⢠CT: Same week with private option
>>> ⢠Surgeries: Weeks, not months
>>> ⢠Deaths while waiting: tiny fraction of Canada
>>> ðºð¸ United States
>>> ⢠MRI: 24â48 hours (insured)
>>> ⢠CT: Same day
>>> ⢠Surgeries: Days or weeks
>>> ⢠Deaths while waiting: not tracked⦠because wait-lists are rare
>>> ð¬ð§ United Kingdom (NHS)
>>> ⢠MRI: 25â35 days
>>> ⢠CT: 1â3 weeks
>>> ⢠Surgeries: long waits, but far fewer die waiting
>>> ⢠Deaths while waiting: â310
>>> Now the real problemâ¦
>>> ⸻
>>> ð¨ð¦ 23,746 Canadians died waiting for surgery or scans last
>>> year This is not normal.
>>> This is not happening anywhere else in the developed world.
>>> And itâs getting worse.
>>> ⸻
>>> ð¨ð¦ Canada
>>> 23,746 deaths while on wait-lists (2024â25).
>>> Months for MRIs. Months for CTs. Months for surgery.
>>> The longest waits in the developed world⦠and the highest death
>>> toll from delays.
>>> ⸻
>>> ðµð± Poland
>>> Public system with a legal private optionâ¦
>>> ⢠MRI in 7â14 days
>>> ⢠Surgeries in weeks, not half-a-year
>>> No national crisis of patients dying waiting for care.
>>> Poland proves that choice shortens waits.
>>> ⸻
>>> ðºð¸ United States
>>> The US issues are about cost â not speed.
>>> Urgent care is immediate. Elective surgery is fast.
>>> They donât track âdied waiting for surgeryâ because wait-lists
>>> almost never exist.
>>> ⸻
>>> ð¬ð§ United Kingdom (NHS)
>>> Even a struggling NHS reports â310 deaths linked to delayed major
>>> surgery. Canada: 23,746.
>>> The gap is staggering.
>>> ⸻
>>> ð The truth
>>> Canada now has:
>>> ⢠the slowest system,
>>> ⢠the longest waits, and
>>> ⢠the highest number of deaths from delayed care in the developed
>>> world.
>>
>> + 1
>>
>> FYI
>
> Both China and Russia have better health care and education today
> than anything America has had. Rich Chinese don't have to swim
> in a sea of illiterate, sickly, commons to enjoy Civilization.
>
You can talk about wait times and all that shit, but the US is at the bottom on
virtually every health measure. People in other countries live longer, lower infant
and maternal deaths, etc. AND the US spends more on healthcare than those othe
countries,
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