From: AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com>
Newsgroups: alt.global-warming,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,can.politics,alt.politics.liberalism,alt.politics.democrats,alt.politics.usa.republican
Subject: Re: Do You Know More Than A Physicist?
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2025 16:50:39 -0600
Organization: AlleyCat Computing, Inc.
On Thu, 4 Dec 2025 16:22:04 -0800, Alan says...
> On 2025-12-04 15:42, AlleyCat wrote:
> >
> > Then, shut the fuck up.
> >
> > Leading physicist Dr. John F. Clauser, a joint recipient of the 2022 Nobel
> > Prize in Physics:
> >
> > "I can confidently say there is no real climate crisis, and that climate
> > change does not cause extreme weather events."
> >
> > Just days after Dr. Clauser made these statements, the IMF canceled a talk he
> > had been invited to deliver.
> >
> > "I believe that climate change is not a crisis. Real truth could be found if
> > and only if you learn to recognize and use good science. It's especially true
> > when real truth is politically incorrect and does not reflect political
> > business aims or desires of leaders. Even the scientific community can
> > sometimes become deluded by pseudoscience. If you're doing good science, it
> > may lead you into politically incorrect, areas. If you're a good scientist,
> > you will follow them. I can confidently say there is no real climate crisis
> > and that climate change, does not cause extreme weather events.
> >
> > And before you say he doesn't know about climate...
> >
> > https://i.imgur.com/jC961Hn.mp4
> >
> > LOL... prove him wrong.
> Notice he said "I believe".
Yeah... he's not stupid like your hewo Al Gore:
"We will stop climate change, but 'how soon' is the life-and-death
question." - Al Gore
Yeah... Al Gore is going to stop the climate from changing, which has BEEN
changing for billions or years.
And we all know how wrong he was about Arctic Ice.
The media too.
And don't forget another hewo of the left...
John Kerry in 2009: "In 5 years, scientists predict, we WILL have the first
ice free Arctic summer."
https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1706402523169558528/pu/vid/avc1/848x464/e
z3pxMD1eq-8TIFD.mp4?tag=12
And 11 years later?
"And we're like... the world is going to end in 12 years if we don't address
climate change..." - AOC
2009: Al Gore: Arctic ice-free by 2014
2013: Al Gore: Arctic ice-free by 2015
2013: Al Gore: Arctic ice-free by 2016
2008: Al Gore: Arctic ice-free by 2018
2021: Joe "Brandon" Biden: 'We Don't Have Much More Than 10 Years, for Real'
2014: Only 500 days before 'climate chaos'
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REAL scientists who think you are full of shit:
Dr. Ivar Giaever, PhD., Norwegian-American engineer and physicist who shared
the Nobel Prize in Physics in 1973
Dr. Ian Clark, PhD., paleo-climatologist, hydro-geologist, professor,
Department of Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa
Dr. Nir Shaviv, PhD., Institute of Physics, University of Jerusalem, Israel -
He is known for his solar and cosmic-ray hypothesis of CLIMATE CHANGE
Dr. Ian Clarke, Ph.D., paleo-climatologist, hydro-geologist, professor,
Department of Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa
Dr. Jeffrey A. Glassman, PhD - Dr. Glassman is the first scientist to show
that the modern temperature record is contained in the reconstructed history
of solar activity, and to advance a model for how that occurs.
Dr. Carl Wunsch (PhD. of oceanography) MIT - He is known for his early work in
internal waves and more recently for research into the effects of ocean
circulation on climate.
Dr Richard Lindzen, Professor in meteorology at the institution for
atmospheric physics at Massachusetts Institute of Technology and IPCC
Dr. Freeman Dyson, Ph.D., Nobel Prize winner, professor emeritus of the School
of Natural Sciences, Institute for Advanced Study; Fellow of the Royal Society
Dr. John Christy, Ph.D., climate scientist, Professor and LEAD Author, IPCC,
satellite remote sensing of global climate and global climate change expert
Dr. Roy Spenser, Ph.D. - Weather Satellite Team LEADER - NASA
Dr. Philip Stott, Ph.D, professor emeritus of biogeography at the University
of
London
Dr. Sherwood Idso, Ph.D., president of the Center for the Study of Carbon
Dioxide and Global Change, a 501(c)(3) nonprofit organization.
Dr. Patrick Michaels, Ph.D., senior fellow in environmental studies
Dr. Kiminori Itoh, Ph.D., award winning PhD environmental physical chemist
Dr. Tim Ball, Ph.D., an environmental consultant and former climatology
professor at the University of Winnipeg in Manitoba
Here's my list of the sane and NOT paid by the government to lie,
scientists and experts in their fields of study, who KNOW man isn't
responsible for climate change.
I'll take these scientists over GOVERNMENT paid shills.
These scientists have said that it is not possible to project global
climate accurately enough to justify the ranges projected for
temperature and sea-level rise over the next century.
David Bellamy, botanist.
Lennart Bengtsson, meteorologist, Reading University.
Piers Corbyn, owner of the business WeatherAction which makes weather
forecasts.
Judith Curry, Professor and former chair of the School of Earth and
Atmospheric Sciences at the Georgia Institute of Technology.
Freeman Dyson, professor emeritus of the School of Natural Sciences,
Institute for Advanced Study; Fellow of the Royal Society
Steven E. Koonin, theoretical physicist and director of the Center for
Urban Science and Progress at New York University
Richard Lindzen, Alfred P. Sloan emeritus professor of atmospheric
science at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and member of the
National Academy of Sciences
Craig Loehle, ecologist and chief scientist at the National Council for
Air and Stream Improvement.
Patrick Moore, former president of Greenpeace Canada
Nils-Axel Mörner, retired head of the Paleogeophysics and Geodynamics
Department at Stockholm University, former chairman of the INQUA
Commission on Sea Level Changes and Coastal Evolution (1999-2003)
Garth Paltridge, retired chief research scientist, CSIRO Division of
Atmospheric Research and retired director of the Institute of the
Antarctic Cooperative Research Centre, visiting fellow Australian
National University
Denis Rancourt, former professor of physics at University of Ottawa,
research scientist in condensed matter physics, and in environmental and
soil science
Harrison Schmitt, geologist, Apollo 17 Astronaut, former U.S. Senator.
Peter Stilbs, professor of physical chemistry at Royal Institute of
Technology, Stockholm
Philip Stott, professor emeritus of biogeography at the University of
London
Hendrik Tennekes, retired director of research, Royal Netherlands
Meteorological Institute
Anastasios Tsonis, distinguished professor at the University of
Wisconsin-Milwaukee
Fritz Vahrenholt, German politician and energy executive with a
doctorate in chemistry
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Scientists arguing that global warming is primarily caused by natural
processes.
These scientists have said that the observed warming is more likely to
be attributable to natural causes than to human activities. Their views
on climate change are usually described in more detail in their
biographical articles.
Khabibullo Abdusamatov, astrophysicist at Pulkovo Observatory of the
Russian Academy of Sciences
Sallie Baliunas, retired astrophysicist, Harvard-Smithsonian Center for
Astrophysics
Timothy Ball, historical climatologist, and retired professor of
geography at the University of Winnipeg
Robert M. Carter, former head of the school of earth sciences at James
Cook University
Ian Clark, hydrogeologist, professor, Department of Earth Sciences,
University of Ottawa
Chris de Freitas, associate professor, School of Geography, Geology and
Environmental Science, University of Auckland
David Douglass, solid-state physicist, professor, Department of Physics
and Astronomy, University of Rochester
Don Easterbrook, emeritus professor of geology, Western Washington
University
William M. Gray, professor emeritus and head of the Tropical Meteorology
Project, Department of Atmospheric Science, Colorado State University
William Happer, physicist specializing in optics and spectroscopy;
emeritus professor, Princeton University
Ole Humlum, professor of geology at the University of Oslo
Wibjörn Karlén, professor emeritus of geography and geology at the
University of Stockholm.
William Kininmonth, meteorologist, former Australian delegate to World
Meteorological Organization Commission for Climatology
David Legates, associate professor of geography and director of the
Center for Climatic Research, University of Delaware
Anthony Lupo, professor of atmospheric science at the University of
Missouri
Tad Murty, oceanographer; adjunct professor, Departments of Civil
Engineering and Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa
Tim Patterson, paleoclimatologist and professor of geology at Carleton
University in Canada.
Ian Plimer, professor emeritus of mining geology, the University of
Adelaide.
Arthur B. Robinson, American politician, biochemist and former faculty
member at the University of California, San Diego
Murry Salby, atmospheric scientist, former professor at Macquarie
University and University of Colorado
Nicola Scafetta, research scientist in the physics department at Duke
University
Tom Segalstad, geologist; associate professor at University of Oslo
Nir Shaviv, professor of physics focusing on astrophysics and climate
science at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem
Fred Singer, professor emeritus of environmental sciences at the
University of Virginia
Willie Soon, astrophysicist, Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics
Roy Spencer, meteorologist; principal research scientist, University of
Alabama in Huntsville
Henrik Svensmark, physicist, Danish National Space Center
George H. Taylor, retired director of the Oregon Climate Service at
Oregon State University
Jan Veizer, environmental geochemist, professor emeritus from University
of Ottawa
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These scientists have said that no principal cause can be ascribed to
the observed rising temperatures, whether man-made or natural.
Syun-Ichi Akasofu, retired professor of geophysics and founding director
of the International Arctic Research Center of the University of Alaska
Fairbanks.
Claude Allègre, French politician; geochemist, emeritus professor at
Institute of Geophysics (Paris).
Robert Balling, a professor of geography at Arizona State University.
Pål Brekke, solar astrophysicist, senior advisor Norwegian Space
Centre.
John Christy, professor of atmospheric science and director of the Earth
System Science Center at the University of Alabama in Huntsville,
contributor to several IPCC reports.
Petr Chylek, space and remote sensing sciences researcher, Los Alamos
National Laboratory.
David Deming, geology professor at the University of Oklahoma.
Ivar Giaever, professor emeritus of physics at the Rensselaer
Polytechnic Institute and a Nobel laureate.
Vincent R. Gray, New Zealand physical chemist with expertise in coal
ashes
Keith E. Idso, botanist, former adjunct professor of biology at Maricopa
County Community College District and the vice president of the Center
for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change
Antonino Zichichi, emeritus professor of nuclear physics at the
University of Bologna and president of the World Federation of
Scientists.
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These scientists have said that projected rising temperatures will be of
little impact or a net positive for society or the environment.
Indur M. Goklany, science and technology policy analyst for the United
States Department of the Interior
Craig D. Idso, faculty researcher, Office of Climatology, Arizona State
University and founder of the Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and
Global Change
Sherwood B. Idso, former research physicist, USDA Water Conservation
Laboratory, and adjunct professor, Arizona State University
Patrick Michaels, senior fellow at the Cato Institute and retired
research professor of environmental science at the University of
Virginia
August H. "Augie" Auer Jr. (1940-2007), retired New Zealand MetService
Meteorologist and past professor of atmospheric science at the
University of Wyoming
Reid Bryson (1920-2008), Emeritus Professor of Atmospheric and Oceanic
Sciences, University of Wisconsin-Madison, said in a 2007 magazine
interview that he believed global warming was primarily caused by
natural processes:
Robert Jastrow (1925-2008), American astronomer, physicist and
cosmologist. He was a leading NASA scientist. Together with Fred Seitz
and William Nierenberg he established the George C. Marshall Institute
to counter the scientists who were arguing against Reagan's Starwars
Initiative, arguing for equal time in the media. This institute later
took the view that tobacco was having no effect, that acid rain was not
caused by human emissions, that ozone was not depleted by CFCs, that
pesticides were not environmentally harmful and it was also critical of
the consensus view of anthropogenic global warming. Jastrow acknowledged
the Earth was experiencing a warming trend, but claimed that the cause
was likely to be natural variation.
Harold ("Hal") Warren Lewis (1923-2011), Emeritus Professor of Physics
and former department chairman at the University of California, Santa
Barbara. In 2010, after 67 years of membership, Lewis resigned from the
American Physical Society, writing in a letter about the "corruption"
from "the money flood" of government grants.
Frederick Seitz (1911-2008), solid-state physicist and former president
of the National Academy of Sciences and co-founder of the George C.
Marshall Institute in 1984.