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From: AlleyCat <katt@gmail.com>
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Subject: Clinton and Obama's Love For Fraud And Fraudsters - Bonus Round Included
Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2025 16:50:43 -0600
Organization: AlleyCat Computing, Inc.


On Fri, 05 Dec 2025 17:08:48 +0000,  Lee says...  

> "Somebody's Getting Rich"?: Senator 
> Suggests Trump Pardon Spree Is Yet 
> Another Grift

So... when Clinton and Obama pardoned fraudsters, it wasn't "a grift"?

Clinton's pardoning of fraudsters, just 1994:

Wanda Kaye Bain-Prentice - Mail fraud

Kristine Margo Beck - Bank embezzlement

Joe Carol Bruton - Conspiracy to commit mail fraud

Nolan Lynn DeMarce - Making false statements to obtain bank loans

Jimmy C. Dick - Conspiracy to manufacture counterfeit Federal Reserve notes

Edward Eugene Dishman - Conspiracy to defraud the United States and Oklahoma

Mary Theresa Fajer - Conspiracy to commit bank embezzlement

Albert James Forte - Making and subscribing false and fraudulent income tax 
return

Billy Joe Gilmore - Mail fraud and aiding and abetting

George William Lindgren - Bank embezzlement

Brian George Meierkord - Making false statement to bank

Jackie Lee Miller - Conspiracy to defraud the U.S.

Mary Louise Oaks - Conspiracy to defraud the government with respect to claims

Robert Paul Padelsky - Misapplication of bank funds

Elizabeth Amy Peterson - Conspiracy to make false statements to bank

Gary Lynn Quammen - Misapplication of bank funds

Elizabeth Hogg Rushing - Misapplication of bank funds

Diane Dorothea Smunk - Embezzlement by government employee

Thomas Park Stathakis - Selling and delivering firearms to out-of-state 
residents and falsifying firearm records

Kathleen Vacanti - Conspiracy to defraud the United States by obtaining 
payment of false claims, presenting false claims to the United States, forging 
a writing, and aiding and abetting

Pupi White - Making false statement on United States passport application

Roderick Douglas Woods - Misappropriation of bank funds and aiding and 
abetting

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Obama's pardoning of fraudsters, just 1994:

Laurens Dorsey - Conspiracy to defraud by making false statements to the Food 
and Drug Administration

Scoey Lathaniel Morris - Counterfeiting offense.

Patricia Ann Weinzatl - Structuring transactions to evade reporting 
requirements

Kelli Elisabeth Collins - Aiding and abetting a wire fraud

Roy Eugene Grimes Sr. - Falsely altering a United States postal money order, 
uttering, and publishing a forged and altered money order with intent to 
defraud

An Na Peng - Conspiracy to defraud the Immigration and Naturalization Service

Alfor Sharkey - Unauthorized acquisition of food stamps

Donna Kaye Wright - Embezzlement and misapplication of bank funds

Derek James Laliberte - Money laundering

Robert Andrew Schindler - Conspiracy to commit wire fraud and mail fraud

Kimberly Lynn Stout, formerly known as Kimberly Lynn Cooley - Bank 
embezzlement, fraud

Miles Thomas Wilson - Mail fraud

=====

Bonus round!

Like Obama, a druggie himself, he pardoned MANY a druggie.

A very small sample:

Timothy James Gallagher - Cocaine possession and conspiracy to distribute[13]

Roxane Kay Hettinger - Conspiracy to distribute cocaine

Edgar Leopold Kranz Jr. - Cocaine use, adultery and bouncing checks

Floretta Leavy - Drug offenses

Randy Eugene Dyer - Conspiracy to import marijuana (hashish), conspiracy to 
remove baggage from the custody and control of the U.S. Customs Service and 
convey false information concerning an attempt to damage a civil aircraft

Allen Edward Peratt - Conspiracy to distribute methamphetamine

Christine Marie Rossiter - Conspiracy to distribute less than 50 kilograms of 
marijuana

Lesley Claywood Berry Jr. - Conspiracy to manufacture, possess with intent to 
distribute, and distribute marijuana

Bobby Jackson - Conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute in excess of 
1,000 pounds of marijuana

Ricky Dale Collett - Aiding and abetting in the manufacture of 61 marijuana 
plants

Michael John Petri - Conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute and 
distribution of a controlled substance (cocaine)

Lynn Marie Stanek - Unlawful use of a communication facility to distribute 
cocaine

VERY small sample.

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"Trump Derangement Syndrome" Is a Real Mental Condition

All you need to know about "Trump Derangement Syndrome," or TDS.

"Trump Derangement Syndrome (TDS) is a mental condition in which a person has 
been driven effectively insane due to their dislike of Donald Trump, to the 
point at which they will abandon all logic and reason."

Justin Raimondo, the editorial director of Antiwar.com, wrote a piece in the 
Los Angeles Times in 2016 that broke TDS down into three distinct phases or 
stages:

"In the first stage of the disease, victims lose all sense of proportion. The 
president-elect's every tweet provokes a firestorm, as if 140 characters were 
all it took to change the world."

"The mid-level stages of TDS have a profound effect on the victim's 
vocabulary: Sufferers speak a distinctive language consisting solely of 
hyperbole."

"As TDS progresses, the afflicted lose the ability to distinguish fantasy from 
reality."

The Point here is simple: TDS is, in the eyes of its adherents, the knee-jerk 
opposition from liberals to anything and everything Trump does. If Trump 
announced he was donating every dollar he's ever made, TDS sufferers would 
suggest he was up to something nefarious, according to the logic of TDS. 
There's nothing - not. one. thing. - that Trump could do or say that would be 
received positively by TDSers.

The history of Trump Derangement Syndrome actually goes back to the early 
2000s - a time when the idea of Trump as president was a punch line for late-
night comics and nothing more.

Wikipedia traces its roots to "Bush Derangement Syndrome" - a term first 
coined by the late conservative columnist Charles Krauthammer back in 2003. 
The condition, as Krauthammer defined it, was "the acute onset of paranoia in 
otherwise normal people in reaction to the policies, the presidency - nay - 
the very existence of George W. Bush."