From: Kenito Benito <Kenito@Benito.naw>
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Subject: Re: More on Trump Derangement and I.C.E.
Organization: The Kenito Foundation (a 100% fictional company)
Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2025 10:15:55 -0800
On Sat, 13 Dec 2025 07:57:20 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>On Sat, 13 Dec 2025 03:32:43 -0800, Kenito Benito
><Kenito@Benito.naw> in alt.atheism with message-id
><ujjqjkp2rb5l70oavmsddk8s0lbjuooopb@4ax.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sat, 13 Dec 2025 06:10:12 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>
>>>On Fri, 12 Dec 2025 23:06:14 +0000, REAL Tall Henry
>>><not@home.org> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>><ku7pjk1d62d2pctn92p329k0bmqgv9as25@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Fri, 12 Dec 2025 16:50:29 -0500, Loose Cannon <efberg73@gmx.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Thu, 11 Dec 2025 00:13:28 -0800, Michael Ejercito
>>>>><MEjercit@HotMail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>https://ethicsalarms.com/2025/12/11/more-on-trump-derangement-and-i-c-e/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>More on Trump Derangement and I.C.E.
>>>>>>December 11, 2025 / Jack Marshall
>>>>>>
>>>>>> <SNIP COON DRIVEL>
>>>>>
>>>>>The only derangement is you. You follow a known quack like a baby duck
>>>>>and its mother, licking his ass along the way. You find your
>>>>>'opinions' reading plagiarized nonsense from apes, and you continue to
>>>>>deny your presence at the Queen Mary parking lot. That's derangement!
>>>>
>>>>Yup.
>>>>
>>>>Indeed.
>>>>
>>>>It sure, is.
>>>>
>>>>etc.
>>>
>>>TDR is real and can be found in many places.
>>
>> Pardon my ignorance, but what is TDR?
>
>The result of my not proof-reading my comment.
>
>TDS - Trump Derangement Syndrome.
>
That makes much more sense.
>>
>>>ICE is doing
>>>what they are required to do under federal law as passed by
>>>Congress and signed by the President.
>>>
>>>Exactly what is ICE doing that is illegal?
>>
>> Deporting people WITHOUT due process.
>
>They came here without any due process.
Yet we have learned, and are learning, of MANY who were here
legally being deported.
When refugees come here and are granted asylum, they're legal.
They may violate a law, or laws, that causes that protection to be
removed. But without due process, how can we know they committed such
an act?
Without due process, there is no means for them to prove they are
here legally. ICE could grab you and deport you, claiming you're
actually illegal. Without due process, you couldn't present evidence
proving that you are legal.
>Why should they get
>the legal protection of a legal citizen?
Everyone within the boarders has a Constitutional right to due
process. Please see Shaughnessy v. United States ex rel. Mezei, 345
U.S. 206, 212 (1953), Plyler v. Doe, 457 U.S. 202, 215 (1982), and
Zadvydas v. Davis, 533 U.S. 678, 693 (2001). The last one is, perhaps,
the best since it holds that due process applies to all persons within
the United States, including aliens, whether their presence here is
lawful, or not.
You will note the Constitution states in the Fifth Amendment, the
ones SCOTUS used, all PERSONS, not all citizens.
You are certainly free to lobby for an amendment that restricts,
or eliminates the right to Due Process. I don't think you will find
successes, but you guarantee failure if you don't try.
You may also file a writ of certiorari, either yourself or
through a lawyer, to argue to have a new ruling that negates the
previous ones.
--
Kenito Benito
Strategic Writer,
Psychotronic World Dominator.
And FEMA camp counselor.