From: Attila <prochoice@here.now>
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Subject: Re: More on Trump Derangement and I.C.E.
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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2025 17:48:25 -0500
On Tue, 16 Dec 2025 23:59:39 -0800, Kenito Benito
<Kenito@Benito.naw> in alt.atheism with message-id
<mmo4kkth1pfq58lfc2tnp0pek8epqplbn7@4ax.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 16 Dec 2025 06:38:56 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 16 Dec 2025 00:48:16 -0800, Kenito Benito
>><Kenito@Benito.naw> in alt.atheism with message-id
>><dt62kk9jasjii3ket7um66keop6s2m45ql@4ax.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Mon, 15 Dec 2025 08:44:22 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Mon, 15 Dec 2025 01:25:02 -0800, Kenito Benito
>>>><Kenito@Benito.naw> in alt.atheism with message-id
>>>><dukvjk9k4abmatd2jfhkmm417j0g5jtem7@4ax.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sun, 14 Dec 2025 07:25:51 -0500, Attila <prochoice@here.now> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>[...]
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>ICE is doing
>>>>>>>>>>>>what they are required to do under federal law as passed by
>>>>>>>>>>>>Congress and signed by the President.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Exactly what is ICE doing that is illegal?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Deporting people WITHOUT due process.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>They came here without any due process.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yet we have learned, and are learning, of MANY who were here
>>>>>>>>>legally being deported.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Even when they showed documentation supporting their status?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Since they're denied due process, they've not been allowed to
>>>>>>>show documentation supporting their status.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Nonsense. They can show supporting documentation without a
>>>>>>scheduled and drawn-out court appearance. How about showing
>>>>>>it to ICE officials?
>>>>>
>>>>> ICE officers have no jurisdiction.
>>>>
>>>>ICE officers have jurisdiction in any part of the US which
>>>>is not restricted for security reasons. Since they are
>>>>federal officers no state or local laws can impede them.
>>>
>>> This doesn't allow them to determine legality of a resident. This
>>>is what you were suggesting.
>>
>>
>>They can detain pending status verification and release if
>>proper status is verified. Are you say a court is required
>>to effect such a release?
>>
>
> Since ICE isn't releasing people, as you already know, it's a
>pathetic attempt to divert from you.
Media reports indicate ICE routinely detains then releases
many people. When they locate a target they detain
everyone with him and check their status. If they are legal
they are released. If not they are deported.
>
>[Snip the remainder since you consistently PROVE you do not care about
>what is true. Now declare victory.]
I am aware of the issues involved in identifying and
deporting illegals. Do you think illegals should be
deported?
--
Every person in the US is here either
legally or illegally. Those that are
here illegally should be afraid.
Be very afraid. It does not matter
how long you have been here. It does
not matter why you are here. It does not
matter what you have done legally while you
were here. It does not matter what any
relative may have done while you were here.
It only matters that you are here illegally.
It may take a day, a week, a year, or longer
but we will find you and we will deport you.
Be prepared.
Deport them all.
Due process:
Q. Are you here legally? If so, where is
the documentation to establish that?
All politicians are trained to lie
and make those lies sound like
the truth. They start with the biggest
lie of all: Politicians are public
servants.
The Dims have an appropriate party
symbol: A jackass.
Some of the Republican positions I find disgusting
and abhorrent.
Most of the Democratic positions I find terrifying.
I support:
A Constitional Amendment establishing
the Freedom of Choice.
The elimination of public expression,
display or support of religion or
religious positions.